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google giving more credit to web 2.0 nofollow?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dansurge, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. dansurge

    dansurge Newbie

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    What's up BHW? I had a 301 from a pretty high DA/PA domain. I moved the redirect to a web 2.0 I built on snack.ws (example no-follow web2) My main domain keywords where the 301 use to redirect started to dive, the no-follow web2.0 had a single ink on the site, and moving the 301 pointed to the web2.0 made the key words associated with that link/page that links to my moneysite move up - a lot... 18,000 monthly searches keywords..

    this always been or is this a new phenomenon?
     
  2. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    I'm not sure I completely understand. You 301'd to a nofollow site that then points to another site? A nofollow is the same as deleting a link... it essentially takes it out of your link graph.
     
  3. dansurge

    dansurge Newbie

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    previous setup: DA55-domain 301-> money site.
    Moved 301 DA55- -> to web2.0 with 1 link on page (no-follow)

    main keywords from money site dropped nearly 20 places in about 1.5 weeks ( ranking 5000 keywords on site)
    Keyword specific on the nofollow (and also no index robots.txt /* ) web2.0 and anchors in the single link located on that web2.0 had a opposite effect on the rankings for those specific serps on the money site. They increased 20 places. These are 18,000+ monthly searches keywords I've been playing with.

    Doesnt make sense to me either. I removed the 301 to the nofollow web2.0 and put it back directly 301 to the money site and guess what happened? Reversed again. We missing something? I also tracked some of the highest competition in my niche and some of there highest "intersecting" pages have nofollow high authority domains involved.
     
  4. ChanzGrande

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    You could easily be on to something, but only testing it a few more times with other niches and keywords would convince me. However, it is somewhat intuitive that G might be discounting do-follow a bit - particularly in instances where it appears as a somewhat consistently employed linking strategy. They may see having a lot of do-follow links or exclusively those types of links as seeming very artificial. Admittedly this is conjecture on my part, but your tests are very interesting!
     
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  5. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    ok, here are a couple of issues. First, changing something one day does not necessarily mean the change in ranking position the next day is related. Google has to crawl first, and most changes people see on their site are unrelated to recent changes. The web is always changing every second, so even if you didn't change anything a month ago, it's more likely that changes are related to the change in web dynamics.

    Second, nofollow and noindex are not the same. Nofollow tells google "Don't pass PR on this link." Noindex tells google not to index. I assume you mean that you told google not to crawl in the robots file, which is yet again another animal. No crawling doesn't mean noindex although it's likely that Google will start to drop pages that it can't crawl.

    I think you are getting confused by different terminology and then falling into the trap that what you did a day ago is directly related to ranking. It usually not related. I would say this is one of these cases.
     
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    Let me recap what I believe you said:

    you had a 301 from a high DA/PA property to your main domain
    you moved said 301 to point to a nofollow web2 property
    now the web2 property is ranking highly for the terms that your main domain was ranking for

    if my understanding above is correct, you've just described parasite seo. in this case, the fact that the web2.0 is a nofollow property isn't really a factor..its the fact that the DA is already high and it's able to benefit more from the juice you point to it than your less authority main domain.
     
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  7. dansurge

    dansurge Newbie

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    seems like a good advantage over less authority site. And yes I know the difference between no follow and noindex, the web2.0 has both these attributes. I basically shopped around for a similar domain, and ill 301 to the previous web2.0. Twin power... And the changes I've described took about 1.5 weeks not overnight. So it was a 3 week turn around with the reverse.
     
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