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Google denies Panda hit on rival

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ash1ey, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. ash1ey

    ash1ey BANNED BANNED

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    Forgive me if this has been shared here before but I think some of you might be interested in reading this article from the bbc website :)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13091708
     
  2. Virus1

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    I doubt google intentionally did that...
    what good would that do... its not like
    it would send Microsoft into bankruptcy..

    if it wanted to hurt Microsoft... it could deindex
    microsoft.com.... that would hit them hard...
     
  3. thevil

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    In lighter note, who is to say they didn't do it on purpose. I mean completely deindexing a site would definitely raise some eyebrows, but a simple SERP hit wouldn't as much. They even went outright and attacked Bing in public regarding its serp results.

    They've basically taken over cloud emailing (GMail)
    Theyre taking over the browser scene (Chrome);
    Now infiltrating the O/S scene "Chrome OS, Android";
    They've begun to install a Fiber Network in Kansas City (Google's Fiber to Home);
    Telecommunications (Bought out Grandcentral, put up Google Voice)
    Taken over a substansial potion of Cell phone market (Android)
    Google's Captcha was made to let 'humans' correctly decipher books that cant be recognized with Google's OCR.

    There are tons more... Pretty soon they're going to be our new overlords.

    Any for what purpose? To make money. But people do not realize Google makes money through advertising and media. They're a Media company.

    What all these services do is basically gather information about its subscribers. From Gmail (Ads by reading your email), to G Voice (gather voice/data/voice recognition for marketing purposes to using it to provide translation/grammar). People don't realize when Google starts providing ISP services (Google's Fiber to Home), that it would be a datamining Goldmine.

    Google is a company with major breaches in privacy laws.

    Just one of things you may find pretty eye-raising is when they used vehicles for Googles Street View. That car collected alot of information, practically datamining ALL wifi information (OPEN or not). It recorded MAC addresses as well as GPS locations. Google can now use a 'reverse' macaddress lookup to pin point your exact location.
    Not to mention dozens of ongoing lawsuits against them regarding privacy.


    Its funny after all this, Google maintains the motto; "Don't be evil".


    Theres a good quote that I'm reminded of, "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely".
     
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  4. jb2008

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    Brilliant post thevil, you should send that to matt cunts.
     
  5. milans

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    Yeah they're a bunch of bastards there at google.
     
  6. friedman

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    MAC addresses aren't (normally) sent across the internet
    so the "reverse lookup" you reference isn't possible.

    The MAC address is the layer II address.

    A DHCP server (firewall,router for home userS) assigns an IP address (layer III) to the mac address.

    The IP address is what is seen on the internet.

    Your MAC at your home PC is likely invisible once you cross the router/firewall
     
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    You forgot YouTube Mr.evil :p

    Anway, the internet won't be the one we have today without Google Inc.

    It makes me money, I don't care what they do. Rather if it is Google AdSense, AdWords, YouTube, or SEO.

    It gives us the ability to make money, if BlackHat or WhiteHat, it makes $

    Why blaming Google Inc. when you surf on BHW?
    I would understand that, if someone on a politic party about privacy would say that, but not an BlackHat Internet marketer.

    So far...
     
  8. thevil

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    You are misinformed my friend.

    I said Google's streetview cars grabbed wifi information (including data that was being transmitted which includes MAC addresses) If you understand how MAC transmission works, its like this;
    MAC is used on a local network and as a packet leaves your local network, the mac address is replaced by the mac address of the router.
    This happens at every router along the route between you and any other site.

    [MAC source][MAC Destination][Ether Type][DATA][CRC]

    Now Googles vehicle can pick this up, as well as any other data sniffer, if it is broadcasted. You have to understand that Computers transmit data to the router, then the router interprets the data and sends it along. The data is grabbed during the transmission between the computer and the router, thus revealing the MAC.

    Bottom Line: Once you are in the physical vicinity to the nearby router you can grab the MAC.

    How do you think programs such as aircrack-ng work?

    And YES you can lookup a MAC using Googles API
     
  9. friedman

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    Yes, anyone in direct link to your wifi can see all you mac addresses and even the MFG of your pc (Apple vs Other)

    Hopefully, you're using good encryption and a strong passphrase on wifi

    Can hide the SSID too..
     
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    Google is turning into a true bunch of fuckers nowadays...

    I had a easy $1k a week from some aff sites plus some good mass sb and x services. Hit me both hard. Last week was a $200 instead of a $2k.

    Im going into the porn scene again promoting my aff (adultish) sites heavely. Watching the seo sheit closely and ofcourse hitting my 100+ aff sites with weveral methods who i think they will act up.

    Major arguments with the wife lately lol :D