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Google Dance of Death

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by ballbag, Apr 3, 2012.

  1. ballbag

    ballbag Junior Member

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    I've got a relatively new site that I launched end of Jan and when it's going good in the SERPs, it's going really good. Averaging around £40 per day now on only 120 UVs. The trouble is it's been dancing like crazy. I know I've got to keep adding original content and securing quality backlinks to stop it from dancing, but it's so disheartening to see it come back and then disappear again - which is what it has just done after a nerve-racking month of being down.

    Here is the search traffic from launch:
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    So, I guess my question is, if I keep doing everything right (links/content etc.), how long will it take to stop dancing out of the SERPs? I know there's no definitive answer to that, but on average, and from peoples' experience, how long might it be? I've read 3 months before... does that sound realistic?

    Thanks!
     
  2. mytocents

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    i have some that danced 3 months and as little as 2 weeks it really all depends
     
  3. ballbag

    ballbag Junior Member

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    Do you mean the period that they were down lasted for those times, or they were the overall times it took them to stop dancing altogether and settle in their rightful place?
     
  4. mytocents

    mytocents Junior Member

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    keep doing quality back links and original content and you should come out of the dance quick. you have a good start your numbers look good for start of a new site.
     
  5. ajithrocksca

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    Based on my experience over the past six months, my websites with over 500 posts are quite stable, and only those new micro niche sites which are new with relatively less number posts (but quality posts) are dancing..

    May be it is just the google's way of determining the long term players and sidelining those short term players.
     
  6. ballbag

    ballbag Junior Member

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    That's very interesting to know, Thanks. My site currently has 205 posts. Only 99,795 to go. No joke - that's my goal - LOL!

    Hopefully then, if I keep adding more original content and I get beyond the 500ish mark, it should stabilize?

    Fingers crossed!

    Would be good to hear some more experience of the time it took for people's new sites to stabilize...
     
  7. ballbag

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    Also, is building YT videos with backlinks from the description going to help as part of the backlink mix?
     
  8. dankerman666

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    It's purely a domain age issue. Maybe buying an aged domain in the future would be a good idea;)

    But yeah 3-6 months with consistent content and backlinks and your rankings will most definitely stabilize. Of course the algos might change and blah blah blah. Just keep your backlinks diverse and the content flowing like wine.
     
  9. 0_00_0

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    I'm pretty sure 6 months is the maximum dance time. I feel your pain one of my sites has been dancing for 4-5 months already! It's rather disheartening.
     
  10. ballbag

    ballbag Junior Member

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    So annoying, because I know if it stopped I would soon be on my way to making a full-time income just from this one site. I have got other stuff on the go too though, as I don't want to put all the eggs in one basket.
     
  11. scorpion896

    scorpion896 Senior Member

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    Dancing is normal, just provide higher quality backlinks and it should stabilize
     
  12. ballbag

    ballbag Junior Member

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    What would you reckon is the best method for getting high quality backlinks?

    At the moment I am doing blog outreach to high PR relevant blogs and getting features written about my site. Online PR approach basically.

    I'm not looking for a quick fix or to cut any corners... more than happy to put all my time into this.
     
  13. thetermy

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    Buy a high domain authority link. Something 50+
     
  14. verilix

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    Almost all my sites have danced when they're a few months old, some have danced for a few weeks, some a few months. I've even had one dance over 6 months straight.

    My last 2 sites were both made about 6 months ago; I built the same links to both sites, both high quality links, about 100 of them over 2 months, and they never dropped below the 1st page.
    I ordered some other good quality links, along with some low quality links from BHW, and have retained top 5 rankings for every keyword, with little effort. I've continued building manual links (a few every week), and continued using people's services, for the last few months, and have had no dancing at all. I suggest trying it!
     
  15. ballbag

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    Thanks verilix, sound advice.
     
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    What do you promote? It's a finance niche or something? Direct product? 40E for 120 visitors per day is very well. Don't give up on the website.
     
  17. ballbag

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    Sorry, but don't want to give away the specific niche - it's on CJ and pays out for leads. Up to £15 per lead depending on what kind of lead you get.

    I'm delighted with the results I'm getting, so I'm definitely not going to give up on this site. Giving it everything I've got, which is why it's so frustrating when the arse drops out of it in the SERPs.