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Google.com seperated from Google.co.uk

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by designsonline, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. designsonline

    designsonline Power Member

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    We used to get a lot of traffic from and rank well on Google.com and Google.co.uk
    Recently Google have changed the way the engines serve up results and we are suddenly not getting any traffic from google.com this has slashed our traffic down from hundreds of unique visitors a day to just 20 - 60 a day!

    Who else is having this problem and what can we do about it?
    The website is a genuine Uk website for a legitimate business.

    We are still at the top of google.co.uk for our main keywords but not ranking in Google.com at all any more...?
     
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    hmmm, ok hopefully this will make sense.

    First question: Does your uk business only supply people within the UK or is it over the world also?

    Reason i ask is that if people within the uk visit google.com they will automatically end up on google.co.uk to do their searches so if your business is for only UK then your conversions shouldnt be affected - just your traffic

    However if you do make sales from people abroad then i am not really sure what to advise on this one, except maybe get the same domain name as a .com? (unless you already have this and not a .co.uk one)
     
  3. geezer466

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    I have not noticed it. I have held positions on both .co.uk and .com.

    My business is a service I can supply to people all over the world and indeed do although 95% of it is from the UK.

    I presume you know about flushing your cookies before you make these searches or better still do them with chrome in incognito mode. This lets you see what Joe Public are seeing for the same KW.
    Even betterer still get a VPS with various proxies in different countries and you can get the mix on the results. HMA do a cheap service or many others you can find thru these pages.
     
  4. designsonline

    designsonline Power Member

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    That is exactly the same as my business primarily targeting UK customers, but also occasionally serving people from elsewhere.


    Im actually using Market Samurai with the proxies turned on, so I should be getting the correct data.
     
  5. designsonline

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    That is no longer the case, (at least not here near London) If I search on Google.com it does the search and adds /#hl=en to the URL
    ( http://www.google.com/#hl=en ) and gives totally different results to searching on Google.co.uk

    I did use to rank very strongly on both, but am now only ranking on Google.co.uk, but I suspect that most people still search Google.com
     
  6. elvis1973

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    If I type google.com into my browser it auto refreshes to .co.uk

    Check your browser settings...also have you checked in Analytics for the country source of your traffic over the last few weeks, can you see a definite decline?

    I find using proxies gives me inaccurate data.
     
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  7. designsonline

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    My browser doesnt do that is behaves the way I described above which proves that there are both scenarios occuring.

    I tend to use Firefox mostly, are you using explorer or another browser?
    I dont use Google analitics as this can cause problems. instead I use getclicky.com shows me all that I need to know.
    So yes I have seen a clear decline...
     
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    I usually click the links in Market Samurai to test the results manually and find them pretty accurate most of the time.
     
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    Im using Chrome and IE and it refreshes in both of them. It may be the language settings in your browser.
     
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    If you are in UK typing google.com will get you to the UK version of machine by default. Thats valid unless you use a us proxy and go to .com
     
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    Thats interesting, so maybe firefox users still see google.com with the uk tag, and IE and Chrome users get redirected to Google.co.uk

    Still doesnt explain the massive drop in visitors, considering im top in Google.co.uk for a keyword with over 300 million competition....

    This is really confusing me....
     
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    For me using Firefox I search Google.com and get uk results but different ones than I get if I search google.co.uk!
     
  13. elvis1973

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    I have just checked FF and I still get refreshed to .co.uk using that too.

    you may want to check this

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    http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web%20Search/thread?tid=40ff1d756b6da679&hl=en
    But it does not help with your decline in global traffic
     
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    If you're swedish by default you'll get the country extention .se
    You will only get the .com and google in english if thats the way you personally set it up.
    So i assume its the same thing with co.uk, unless otherwise "stated" you'll get that default page. :)
     
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    Out of interest what problems does GA cause for you?

    Also when i go to google.com in firefox it stays on .com like yours and does not refresh to google.co.uk
     
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    you can set a preferred country in GWT
     
  17. geezer466

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    Chrome has a link in the footer text. Will take you to the .com site from whatever Country extension you are using.
    Read up on incognito mode it does deliver fresh results as Joe Public would see them.

    Not sure about MSamurai and its proxies? Unless you are paying for these I would treat them with a huge pinch of salt.
     
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    At a guess I'd say he is already geo targeted to the UK, but just happened to get loads of traffic from the US until he dropped. If that's the case you wouldn't want to change the geo target now, as the UK results could drop too. Although if the Geo target has never been set could be something to investigate.

    what is the domain? .com?
     
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    Even if you can search google.com without being directed to co.uk, you still aren't seeing the 'true' google.com results (ie. from the US). You are seeing a more of a 'world' google results, with a bias to your country.

    this is a good site to double check county specific google results:

    http://www.seoserp.com/web_tools/google_top_1000_serps_checker.asp