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Google >> Alphabet (What it really means)

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  1. netmoney1

    netmoney1 Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    We all shit on Google daily. But, everyone should be pulling for them.

    Why?

    Because they are the only ones with the balls and ability to make MAJOR breakthroughs in health care.

    Did you know they have been working on a pill that detects cancer cells in their early stages?

    They have hundreds of other amazing projects.

    If you have ever lost a friend or family member to cancer you should be rooting on Google.

    Do you think the government will ever push hard for cures and treatments? Fuck no. That would kill the pharm market.

    Google doesn't give a fuck. Their search engine aside, you should all be pumped. They are about to do some fucking amazing shit.

    Hope some of you are sitting on a pile of Google stock :) ...because they are about to do some amazing stuff in our lifetime.
     
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  2. Capo Dei Capi

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    Google is in it for the money so why are you claiming they don't care? They just have much better PR than pharma companies and other research companies.
     
  3. netmoney1

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    Huh? Where am I claiming they don't care? They do care...of course they want to make money...but do you seriously think the 2 that started Google need more money? No. They see this as a HUGE opportunity to make a big dent in healthcare and do amazing shit.

    Other pharma companies are controlled by the govt and research companies have their hands tied to some degree because of funding. Google doesn't have any of these issues.

    Think what you want...but I'm excited to see what they do, and the Alphabet announcement basically means they are going wide open with this...
     
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    The only thing I am happy about this rejig is that it is finally understanding that in order to grow, instead of doing algo updates and driving normal website owners towards adwords, they have other avenues as well.

    No matter how many updates they bring, their is always going to be a limit to how many people move from seo to adwords, looks like they have finally realized, they cannot just keep on squeezing seo related websites, for increasing their quarterly results.

    Once they start considering other verticals as their business as well, this algo shit updates would hopefully reduce. I haven't got hit by quite a few of them, but I don't want to gamble with my sites either, because they want to increase their quarterly result.

    So, the only thing i am happy about is that the more they focus on other things, the better it is for us.
     
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    They also have the first fully tested self driving car, with one incident. Someone hit the self driving car. It has been going coast to coast for some time now in the US.

    Besides their algo which we hate, the company is doubling down on the future. One day the algo will be a side project and the company will be Skynet.

    I am ready to live cancer free, in my self driving car, eating GMO foods google supplies to the world. My body is ready for Skynet, Google.
     
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  6. Capo Dei Capi

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    What pharma companies are controlled by the government? The top 10 largest ones in terms of sale are publicly traded companies not owned by the government.
     
  7. netmoney1

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    You don't think they have their hand in their pocket somehow? I will think what I want and you can think what you want. Simple.
     
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    Companies are the one influencing governments, and governments aren't even setup to promote cures. The vast majority are open market economies.
     
  9. netmoney1

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    I'm not making my point clear...

    Ok, the pharm industry makes a bazillion dollars on pills for ADD...they pump kids with this poison...and make a lot of money. The govt collects their cut. Imagine if someone came out with one pill....you take it once..and boom, ADD is gone. That would spell the end of all those gazillions of dollars the pharm companies generate and the govt collects on. They would more than likely do something to prevent that. It is not in their best interest to let medical breakthroughs come to light.

    Google on the other hand doesn't give two shits. They can't be swayed with tax breaks, etc. They are on a mission and if anyone can do it, they can.
     
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    But any newcomer to the pharma industry wouldn't be swayed with tax breaks if they have a good product that could sell for large sums of money. Once google starts making alot of money from pharma products they will start to change so that they don't loose money from that division.
     
  11. netmoney1

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    But Google is going after things that aren't a one and done thing...if their cancer detection pill was a success and it worked why would they change anything? They would continue to sell the piss out of it.

    If they find a cancer cure they will be branded as the most amazing company in the world. THAT is more appealing to them than money. With Alphabet they have so many divisions and avenues. The healthcare mission is (I truly believe) something that they are doing for the good of the world. Making breakthroughs and bettering life is more important to them than money. Yes, money is important...but they are setting out to actually make shit happen.
     
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    Google are interested in making money but I think one of the reasons for this announcement is so that the founders can devote time and money to causes/businesses that may lose money initially and require billions of dollars of investment. By separating Goggle/Search, it allows them to take risks without affecting confidence in the core Google Brand.
    That's the way I read it anyway.


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    https://investor.google.com/releases/2015/0810.html
     
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    Google, like any company, has a responsibility and obligation to its share holders to make the most money possible. Unlike big pharma, Google is not designed, even its medical branch, to provide care with a Cancer drug like big pharma, insurance companies, and hospitals. Google has two options to make money. One, sell the medication at a high cost and hope some people buy it, or sell it low and spread it to many.

    From a business model, if they are making a 'cure' as well, giving the detection pill away for free makes sense. You can then sell a 'cure' for darn near anything. Even if insurance will not cover it, people will pay out of pocket, get a loan, ect, to beat cancer. The company knows this.

    If Google wins the cancer race I will be happy. I would rather pay Google for a real cure than a hospital for treatment. Either way I pay for treatment.

    I welcome Google trying its hand in everything, because at the end of the day, they are not apart of the industries which makes money by having horrible products (Pharma, Automotive, ect).
     
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    If they go to cures, they will be selling it for large amounts of money they don't care about the good of the world.
     
  15. netmoney1

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    100% bullshit. Larry Page is on a mission. Read this last text from their PR:

    "And hopefully... as a result of all this, improving the lives of as many people as we can."

    Believe what you want...but I believe their healthcare mission is more than just the dollars.

    Larry Page doesn't give two fucks about money at this point. He knows that he has the chance to do something amazing in his lifetime. After your company is top dog and you have more money than anyone the "game" changes....
     
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    No, I think they are smarter than that.
    I think they would give the drug for Free but it would only be available from their Medical Facilities where they can collect your Medical Data and then offer you treatments for undiagnosed illnesses.
    When they detect your Erectile Dysfunction they will then direct you to Viagra spam. :eek:
     
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    Government does the same thing with the farms and food production. By subsidizing farms they have to produce
    a certain amount, take a loss, and pump the hell out of food to people. Make everything a large size and increase portions.

    I have no hate for Google. They are a private company and I make plenty of cash thanks to them existing. Once again
    PRIVATE enterprise is going to lead the way in medicine, and helped create a whole ecosystem of business opportunities.
     
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    Which company is going to come out and Say we are making a cure for cancer to make money off people?
     
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    This.
    They dont need to charge a shitton of cash for anything. Why is that ? They control most of the searches made in the web. If they find a way to detect cancer cells then it is just a step away from detecting every other sht you are infected with also. IF it is effective it could lead to worldwide(or at least majority) adoption. Giving Google info on your health and maybe even more (movements etc).

    So they get paid if:
    1) You search for the drug
    2) You advertise the drug
    3) They sell the drug
    And not just cancer, if all works as planned im sure it will go towards many more health issues in the end.

    As you see they controll all ends of the spectrum. So they don't need to ask for an arm and a leg as they will be paid anyway. On a scale like they play on, even smaller sums add up fast.
     
  20. netmoney1

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    LOL this is like pissing in the wind.

    If you don't think Google has the intention of actually improving the lives of many, then so be it...If you think they only want to make money, great, good for you.

    Me? I think Page's press release was authentic and right from his heart...not from their PR department.

    I truly do.

    He has accomplished EVERYTHING and MORE in his life. Now he can do something epic that will go down in history...

    I lost my dad way too fucking young because of cancer. Way before I "made it" and I would fucking KILL to have him here to experience this with me. To show him that his guidance and influence paid off...

    So, if some day kids, brothers, sisters, parents, friends and family can enjoy each other without the fucking nightmare cancer brings...then so be it.
     
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