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Google aims to cut "piracy funding"

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  1. GiorgioB

    GiorgioB Supreme Member

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    Just read this on my phone this morning, if any of you are banking off p*rated material I'd start planning a backup for my income site.. just in case

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21505060

    For those too lazy to click:

    Google 'in talks to cut funding to illegal piracy sites'


    It might mean Google could avoid making more alterations to its search results to disadvantage illegal sites, the report said.


    Google has in the past urged authorities to "follow the money" when it comes to stamping out piracy sites.


    Similar blocking measures were put in place against the Wikileaks website.


    The site, which published large amounts of classified documents, had its funding sources strangled by firms who were reportedly pressured by US authorities into taking action.


    The move was controversial, with many calling for boycotts of the companies involved.


    Choking business
    Google would not comment directly on reports it was having discussions with payment companies, but it stressed it had stepped up its efforts on piracy in the past year.


    "Google has never worked harder to tackle piracy online," the company said in a statement.


    "Last month alone we removed over 14 million links to pirated material.


    "There are also huge and growing opportunities for content creators to make money online, which is why so many have signed up to Google Play and as YouTube partners."


    In a report published last year, Google - in partnership with PRS for Music - outlined ways to choke businesses making money from illegal activity.


    The report analysed various funding models in use by sites offering music downloads, movie streaming and other unlicensed content.


    Google's concluded that it was important to tackle the piracy problem at source by targeted companies which advertise on piracy sites - as well as payment providers that enable the collection of subscription money.


    However, Google has been forced to demote certain websites in its search rankings, amid criticism it was easier to find piracy sites over legitimate music stores.


    Paypal has yet to respond to the reports, while Visa told the BBC it would not be making a comment.


    In a statement, Mastercard said: "Mastercard takes online safety and security seriously.


    "We work closely with our part*ners to ensure the best possible experience when using elec*tronic payments."
     
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  2. GreenGoblin

    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    People will just slowly leave google and move to BING! i mean at the end of the day humans want free sh%t and this is why they google for it...after google cease to accommodate 97% of the people who google wanting to find free sh%$ they will just move to BING and so on and so on, when it comes to search engines it's like crack whoever has the best product that's who the heads are going to. But also google can be bluffing just so it looks like there trying to do something about piracy but in there office there saying this.

    office meeting google rep 2: SO! guys what are we really gonna do about piracy
    Google rep 1: AH! same thing we did last year
    google rep 2: we didn't do anything last year
    google rep 1: exactly!
     
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  3. GiorgioB

    GiorgioB Supreme Member

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    I hope you're right.. the thing is that when I check Google Analytics for some of my clients websites and I see over 60% people are using Internet Explorer to visit their site.. I feel some people just gobble down whatever shit is thrown in their face without even thinking about it, or questionning the quality of the product they are using, probably cos they are not even aware that there are other (possibly better) browsers or search engines. (in this case, my client is in a niche where the people are not really tech-savvy)
     
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    Lol I got a feeling this is the case. haha

    I mean, they're Google, I'm sure they can do a lot, but they don't even remove pirate Android app sites.

    So why would they care more about someone else's shit?
     
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    Google is now just being the US's bitch and the entertainment industry has a huge impact on this as well
     
  6. Furious George

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    The tipping point with google for me is when they made it almost impossible to look up porn via image search.
     
  7. No.RuleZ

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    if they do this, someone will create a search engine just for warez
     
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    That's how google will lose most of its utility
     
  9. Jonny Quick

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    I think No.Rulez has it. Whatever people want, people are going to get.
     
  10. ADHD-Dude

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    What they did to image search is just stupid, if you search for something and add the word naked it disables the filter and you get all the porn in the world.

    Maybe they will do the same with "pirated" content.
     
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    if google removes warez from the results
    will lose alot, so if they want to lose for their oponents be my guest
     
  12. zebrahat

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    Piracy search engines already exist, that don't try to monitor or cut off your range of search choices. Alternatives include startpage, duck duck go, clustys.
     
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    Are you serious? Google is going to lose most of it's traffic if they implement that after-all. LOL @ Google
     
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    http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-google-fails-to-punish-pirate-sites-in-search-results-130221/
     
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    I have a feeling Google's monopoly is coming to an end. Has anyone tried searching adult material through Google images? I can't figure out how to disable safesearch after their latest update. Lots of others have this problem too! Think I might switch to yahoo for nsfw image searches. ;)
     
  16. infoasian

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    They share the same problem like Bing. No brand, nobody knows them. There is just Yahoo out there that could have a chance, but they sold out to Microsoft LOL .... There really is a market for a good search engine, but they ahave to create a brand.
     
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    it will be a really bad day when it will be 50/50(roughly) share between google and bing.. I mean you gonna have to do one type of seo for google another type for bing
     
  18. Amsterdammer

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    I wonder why this quote caught my eye:
    "There are also huge and growing opportunities for content creators to make money online, which is why so many have signed up to Google Play and as YouTube partners."

    Time will tell what will happen. If G does cut down on some links it will have effects. People trust G for links and since a warez search engine makes money of pirated content so it will probably not even show up. There are ways around that, but still...
     
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    I think everyone needs to step back and ponder the big picture, which is that Google has defined it's mission with laser-beam accuracy. They deliver RELEVANT SEARCH RESULTS. Marketers get confused by the definition of the word relevance. Google doesn't give a fuck about what marketers and website owners think is relevant. If people could keep this simple idea & perspective firmly in mind, there would be a lot less stupid things being posted.

    Not only do marketers fail to see things from the Search Engine User's perspective, they also fail to see things from Google's perspective. With regard to Google being the "Universal Search Engine for All Manner of Inquiries", Google puts a lot of effort into probing around on the cutting edge, and attempting to establish long-term & profitable footholds. Figuring out how to deliver porn, warez and pirated material is not some kind of "duty" they feel obligated to do, nor is it a burden, or a chore or something they don't want to do.

    There's a big picture to consider here.

    Google is a nut, and it cannot allow itself to be cracked. If, for example, someone were to come up with a superior search engine for porn, one that had the ability to deliver highly relevant results for any and all searches, millions of people would immediately incorporate that new search engine into their browsing habits. Like the "two-party system", we would have a "two-search engine system". And the porn market is HUGE. Google can limit itself in some ways, like not allowing their ad-sense ads on porn websites, but they aren't going to draw a hard black line between themselves and porn.

    But, even if they did, what would happen next. Using the two-search engine model, other people would start to carve-out sections of Google's search market, such as warez, pirate material, etc... etc... and people would learn to pick & choose their search engine based on what it was that they were looking for.

    Need a fast 900 mbyte scifi movie to watch on a Friday night? Don't use Google. They deliver shitty results that are censored by the RIAA. Instead, use the new search engine that indexes all the various p2p torrents into a single, highly-developed search where you can quickly sort files down by size, quality, viewer ratings, number of seeds, etc...

    Once Google's nut is cracked (mixing metaphors here...) it's like Humpty Dumpty falling off the wall. It never gets that search market share back again. That's why they are so aggressive about establishing a toehold in whatever new area they can find. Once they've lost it, they'll never get it back.

    So I think, to a great extent, that's one of the reasons why we can "sort of" rely on Google to keep those motherfuckers at RIAA and MPAA at bay. To Google, it's not just a simple matter of a few illegally downloaded movies or song files, it's about their long term survival. I also think that RIAA and MPAA ought be be sending young talent over to Matt Cutt's house at least once a week, to make him sammiches and massage his nuts. If I ran that show, I'd have everything and anything even remotely connected to RIAA and MPAA deindexed, to include government websites and (in particular) the entire country of Sweden, as punishment for their treatment of TPB.
     
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  20. infoasian

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    They do exactly draw a hard line. They do all in their power to destroy this industry. All of their top search results lead to tube sites with unlicensed content to make sure legit content creators don't see a penny worth for their work and content. It's almost a religious or fanatic intent behind this destructive process.