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Google +1 - How do they help rankings

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by HarrisonHill, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. HarrisonHill

    HarrisonHill Regular Member

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    There were many discussions about +1 votes. Some say they don't help in SERPs, some say they do. From my experience - +1's help in SERPs, but only in case +1's are REAL.

    Bottish votes can be easily traced by Google and 99% they won't help you in rankings.

    Do you know how Google tracks if vote was real or not? Here are the ways they identify that.

    1) Google account. For example, if user's account who +1'd your page is 1 day old, doesn't have any friends, photos, stories, and any other activity, that vote won't help for sure. If user has friends, is active etc. that vote will help.

    2) Google +1 button traces, records and sends mouse movement data to Google. If you use chrome, go to the page with +1 button, press F12 to open console, then go to timeline tab and press record button. Then move your mouse on that page and look at mousemove activity. Yeah, it records movement of your mouse.

    So for example you create a bot which +1s your page. Bots don't use mouse to automate things, so Google will receive data that +1 was received but there were no any mouse movements on the page, seems strange right? How person can +1 page without moving their mouse?

    And what about SERP improvements for keyword, I think +1s will help for specific keyword if user arrived from Google for specific keyword.

    Simply, if REAL user navigated from Google for keyword "dog training" and then +1d your page, you will receive positive effects in SERPs for "dog training".

    So some advice for you guys:

    1. Start making Google accounts, adding friends, photos, make them active and make them look real.

    2. If you know programming, create bot which simulates random mouse movement, waits some time and only then clicks on +1. Plus, create bot which will navigate from Google with specific keyword and then clicks on +1.
     
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  2. grav6

    grav6 Junior Member

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    Hello, mate. I didn't know about the mouse movement recording. Very interesting. I'm researching this further. Thanks for this post!
     
  3. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    I agree w/ OP. I tried fake +1's and they didn't do a darn thing.
     
  4. ben10023

    ben10023 Regular Member

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    What do you guys think of marketplaces like youlikehits for G+1s? Worthwile?
     
  5. spenzo

    spenzo Senior Member

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    that pretty good information OP.. thnx for that...
    anyways.. i always do manually :)
     
  6. awtprod

    awtprod Junior Member

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    I thought +1s only worked to "personalize" your own search results. So +1s1s only increase the rankings for your results and the people in your circle, no?
     
  7. dheer

    dheer Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    so do you mean if someone manually click on buttons it will impact on SERP's? We do provide manual google +1's and we have received positive results from our many repeat buyers and this is why I'm eager to know about your findings.

    We have also learned that drip feeding +1's works best. So if you try to +1 all at once and then stop it rises red flags on google and they can identify that someone is tricking the system. So if you get drip feed google +1's it will look pretty natural and will give better results than bot created.
     
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  8. Stizerg

    Stizerg Power Member

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    Yes, it's correct. G+ doesn't effect others, only you and your friends.
     
  9. everest2012

    everest2012 Junior Member

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    I never thought of +1 quite like you have described in this thread. Then again, awhile back I did watch a video about the purpose of Google + published by Google. I still have some aspects I need further explanations concerning this. One action I would take is if I must buy +1 votes I would want to make sure they are real people and preferably from different ips.
     
  10. futurestic06

    futurestic06 Supreme Member

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    this part is really awesome. i am really amazed to heard that Google started counting mouse movement too :)
    thanks for the information dude.