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going to get a chrombook as my main laptop

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by firstnamelastname, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. firstnamelastname

    firstnamelastname Junior Member

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    I have never used a chromebook. I have always used my windows 7 laptop.

    I am considering getting a chromebook and use it as my main laptop. I don't know much about computers but these are my reasons:

    1) The chromebook is supposed to be lighter because there is no hard drive
    2) everything in in the cloud, so there is no security concerns. if the laptop gets stolen, nothing can be accessed (is that accurate?)

    How about my blackhat stuff? right now I keep track of everything in MS office products. How would I do that without google finding my shit?
     
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    blazingcode BANNED BANNED

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    for me windows 7 is the best!
     
  3. GoGudget

    GoGudget Registered Member

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    Well for me it was a bad experience but hope that you will enjoy it!
     
  4. swon

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    Why not upgrade to a laptop with a SSD (Solid State Drive - this is what the chromebook has instead of a "hard drive") and windows 10 and install the Start10 (app that brings back the classic start menu). Disable Cortana, Windows Store and other extras and you will have a nice solid running machine. Please don't be cheap and do buy an anti virus software for 15-30$ a year. It will save you a lot of headache and time.

    Chromebook isnt much use without a decent internet connection.
     
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  5. Taegn

    Taegn Junior Member

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    Yeah chromebook = sub 0 processing power, shitty OS and is completely useless without an internet connection.
    I can't imagine anyone being weighed down with a laptop... so long as you don't buy one made out of solid lead you should be fine.
     
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    why would you do that to yourself :/
     
  7. cheva

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    1> that on its own would completely put me off of buying it. If I have information stored I want it with me not with someone else.
    2> everything in the cloud is not necessarily a good thing, and regardless of your laptop being stolen or not, your data can still be stolen. Ask the celebrities with their naked pictures, or think about the cloudflare leak, even if you assume google is not giving back handed access to some of the "alphabet" agencies.
     
  8. ChiefBeef

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    I'll go against the grain of what everyone else is saying.

    The Chromebook is a great option if you're looking for something cheap, don't mind being connected to the internet every time you need to use it, and practice good security on your accounts.

    Since the Chromebook is tied to Google, make sure you set-up 2 factor authentication and have a good password on your Google accounts. This should give you a good sense of security in regards to having your data in the clouds. Yes, it's possible that data in the clouds can be compromised but if you trust Google then you can have some peace at mind. Alternatively if you really care about keeping 'important' data local then you can get an external hard drive but you'll need to make sure you do regular backups with another drive just in case your external hard drive gets stolen/broken.

    For your MS Office files, you can drop them into Google Drive but you'll be doing all your document editing through Google Documents/Drive. Google Docs has done a good job matching Microsoft Office so they're pretty comparable in functionality.
     
  9. firstnamelastname

    firstnamelastname Junior Member

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    Thanks guys. Yeah, I have heard all the bad things you guys mentioend, but I am super paranoid about having my laptop stolen in real life and the thief seeing all my data. For example when I go to the coffee shop to get some work done, I leave before it gets dark because I am afraid someone will stop me and take my laptop. I don't care about the value of the laptop, just a stranger seeing all my private shit.

    I need to figure something out, encyprtion is another option I guess? I also need to get encruption for my USB flash drive, I keep a lot of shit on that too and I am super paranoid about losing it.

    I don't mind at all that the laptop is useless without the internet. My windows 7 laptop is also useless without the internet. if there is no internet, what the hell am I going to do on my windows 7 laptop?

    I am really attracted to the idea of the theif not being able to see anything if the laptop gets stolen. is my understanding correct that there is literally nothing on the laptop itself?

    The only thing holding me back is google seeing all my blackhat activities, all my PBN sites, all my articles that I have written for my web 2.0 sites.
     
  10. osberht

    osberht Registered Member

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    > getting a chromebook
    > avoiding google

    Aren't they from the same company? As for the blackhat stuff, you could encrypt it before uploading to the google drive.
     
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    you know you can install windows 7 on a chromebook ?
     
  12. ChiefBeef

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    Yes, nothing is on the Chromebook itself if it gets stolen. Chromebook needs access to a Google account which is why 2 factor authentication is important along with a secured password.

    Sounds like you're ready to give up your laptop if it comes to it so having something always on the clouds can be a good idea. If you spent 3 hours working on a document, save it in the clouds, and a thief steals your laptop then you at least have the 3 hours of work saved in the clouds you can access later. If you saved it locally then you would lose 3 hours of work.

    No matter what cloud service you go with, something will be uploaded into the clouds which could potentially mean someone is seeing your data. You could possibly use a different OS laptop, encrypt your files with CipherShed (or whatever), and then upload it to the clouds for extra security. With this option: a physical thief won't be able to open your files and any possible data leak from the cloud will just be faced with encrypted files.

    If you worry that Google is seeing your blackhat activities then a Chromebook is out of the question realistically. You'll be browsing BHW and doing black hat techniques on a Google account but do you REALLY think they really care what you're doing? I bet you Google is looking at all this right now but will it really affect you? There are extensions that can stop Google and other trackers from following you if you want to look into that.
     
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  13. firstnamelastname

    firstnamelastname Junior Member

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    no, I didn't know that.

    Thanks, bro. very helpful. I am not worried about losing 3 hours of work (Although that's a good point)
    I am just worried about a thief going through my files and looking at them.

    of course they do. Not a human, but the bot. I dare you to upload all your PBN sites to a google excel sheet. would you do it? I wouldn't. too much of a footprint.

    It sounds like it's too much trouble to avoid google on a chromebook. I will get an ultrabook with windows and figure out a way to encrypt the hard drive so if someone steals it, they recover nothing. I also need to figure out a way to do the same to my usb flash drive so if I lose it, the finder recovers nothing.
     
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    WARNING TO OP: DO NOT READ THIS POST BEFORE BED. SCENARIOS DEPICTED IN THIS POST CAN CAUSE HEARTACHE, WORRY, HIGH-BLOOD PRESSURE AND CAN ULTIMATELY LEAD TO DEATH. SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL HELP IF YOU EXPERIENCE HEARTACHE LASTING MORE THAN 4 HOURS. CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU ARE PREGNANT OR NURSING.

    I apologize if I sound insensitive to your paranoia. Forgive me for saying this, you do remind me of the BHW Amish member with his trolling posts. I don't know what kind of shady top-secret information you have on your laptop. You sound like an Iranian nuclear scientist paranoid about the Israeli Mossad.

    EVERYTHING you do gets analyzed one way or another. Do you use a word processor? Microsoft Office? Or applications like Grammarly? Do you use any form of cloud storage? Do you send emails? If you did answer "yes" to any of the above questions, then chances are, your data has been analyzed by Google or other giants. Companies do share MASS data with each other. I don't think you are THAT important to be individually analyzed.

    Now as for the "thief" scenario, it really sounds like being afraid to drive a car because you might crash and die so you prefer to walk, but chances are you can get run over by a car and die. Paradox. - Did you ever think that you might accidentally spill liquid on your laptop and fry the whole thing? Better yet, a complete act of mother nature, on a stormy night the electricity voltage fluctuates, your device short circuits and gets fried. I'm sorry, but I'm sure a thief has better shit to do with your laptop, for example, to sell it. Yes, he/SHE (not being sexist) might dwell on trying to log in with passwords like "iloveyou", "123456qwerty" etc, but will quickly give up and sell your laptop. And the middle man doesn't want to be "tracked down" with a hot item, so he/she will wipe all data from the laptop before selling it off.

    Honestly, bro, no hard feelings just joking around, but there is some truth to it. Now my ultimate humble opinion. Buy yourself a Chromebook ...and a Prius. Plant some trees. Meow.
     
  15. Mr Dingle

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    I use one when travelling light.
    I also use Google drive for all my docs, it's worth it for the convenience, had my fingers burned too many times with Microsoft Office
    Drive is essentially your desktop in the cloud but still need windows for running some software