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Going to build a 30 domain PBN, anything to watch out for?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mrtruehybrid, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. mrtruehybrid

    mrtruehybrid Regular Member

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    Hey everyone,

    starting next week I will start building a 30 domain PBN using expired domains with good metrics.
    I was wondering if any of you guys knew any problems that could occur if I am not careful enough?

    My plan is as following:
    - I will register 30 domain names on NameCheap
    - I will purchase a unlimited hosting package with 30 dedicated IP addresses
    - I will create legit looking blogs with multiple pages about the expired domains niche and add an article on the homepage inserting my website link

    Does this look like a good plan?
     
  2. nichexposure

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    You are just leaving a huge footprint here....
     
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    as long as you have different registrar names and who is protected you should be fine.
     
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    Im no pro but ive read up on PBN building and id say you should start off smaller than this.

    Same registrar is as prev comment said a big footprint. So is same hosting.

    The sweetspot for how big your PBN should be is at how big of a PBN you comfortably can build without much risk for it getting busted. Adding +1 domain to that pbn without knowing how to do so could bring the whole thing down.
    Its basic risk management, your have little to gain but a whole lot to lose by building a bigger pbn than you know how to.

    Im not saying dont build a 30 domain pbn, but if i were you id read up more on it before i did it, if i decided to do it that is.
     
  5. patriotnews

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    My plan is as following:
    - I will register 30 domain names on NameCheap bad idea! HUGE footprint right there. Especially if you buy them all at once
    - I will purchase a unlimited hosting package with 30 dedicated IP addresses split up your hosting, use some cloud hosting as well. Don't bunch your stuff like this.
    - I will create legit looking blogs with multiple pages about the expired domains niche and add an article on the homepage inserting my website link will the expired domain niche be the same niche as your site, or you just going to drop in a link?
    What is your plan for these 30? All keywords? Branding? Naked URLs? What we looking at here?
    Any plans to build them up some social media(looks more legit)?

    My advice(take it with a grain of salt, I'm just some random asshole on the internet):
    Buy 2 solid, great looking, expired domains, build them up, schedule some good content, remake the old site. Build up their social profiles, autopost all that great content. Learn what it takes to not leave a footprint between the 2 sites, compare them when done, do they look the same, do they look like your money site, do all the social profiles look identical, did you use all the same plugins? Now, take those notes, make the changes, then drop your link.
    Move on, buy 2 more, build them up, no social anything this time. Compare these sites to each other, compare them to your first 2, any similarities, blah, blah, blah? OK, drop your link.
    If you have by now taught yourself to build some unique websites, start buying more, start stepping it up, but avoid buying all at once, avoid hosting them all together. Spread all that out, otherwise you have a nice juicy footprint.
     
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  6. rottweiller

    rottweiller Newbie

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    Go for different registrars and different hosts and you will be fine.
     
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    I'm glad I clicked on this thread. I just bought 2 domains and was about to by a few more. I will take the advice of building them up 2 at a time.

    To the OP, I just used namecheap, they're good. Good luck with your PBN!
     
  10. patriotnews

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    Once you've taught yourself how to identify your own footprints, buy more or less at a time. Build some with no links for awhile, especially if double buying.
    The list of footprints is massive, but also sometimes over thought.
     
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    I'd wait a while and research this bullshit about expired domains losing their effectiveness thanks to google. Some say bullshit, others are concerned. Either way its worth reading about it.
     
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    Don't forget change the domaini Whois to fake names better as former register name in database, and as others said, buy a few a time, not all once, spread those domains on different hostings too, you should be fine at this level, but from a human review? Nearly no one will survive, except you regard your PBNs as small money site too.

    Forgot: use different plugins/methods to block different bad bots like ahrefs.com, don't use same themes/plugins again and again, and remove Google fonts and RSS feed on half or 1/3 or those domains, as I read sth about it, its a footprint too.
     
  14. Tubbies

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    Isn't blocking bots like ahrefs a bit of a footprint? What does this help with other than blocking competitors from obtaining your PBN?
     
  15. fastlinks

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    30 new domains is not better then 10 aged domains

    I think domain aged matter most in PNB
     
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    I read now PBN is dead i.e. 2017 SEO , google will hand over penalty for PBN sites - Also PBN is too expensive and time consuming. However you have a good plan but be careful with the footprint. Try to register your daomins on differnt hosts same goes with hosting and try to use different registration names (if possible)
     
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    Well, blocking 3rd part crawler bots is a good practice when building PBN, because this way, your competitor will try hard in order to find your money sites' backlink profile, as you blocked bots on PBN domains, your PBN links wont show on any 3rd party tools like ahrefs.com, majesticseo.com etc, your competitior wont find any link data too!

    I think you messed up some concept, because how you can block your competitior to enter your PBN? Just by this way!

    And this is indeed a footprint I think, what you can do is try to use different ways to block those bots, and hope yourself wont get reported by your competitiors.
     
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    Avoid using only one registrar and make sure to get privacy on all of your domains or you can use modified account contact info.
     
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    I am going to join this conversation, even though I didn't want to at first, but reading it makes my head spin.

    @patriotnews summed it up perfectly. That's exactly what you should do to get your feet wet at first.

    I will just copy what I wrote in the previous thread:

    Ah, so much crap. Random guy just says random crap and half people here are crying about end of SEO.
    The algorithm they would need to determine which backlinks are "okay" and which aren't "okay" and should get devalued would have to be immense as fuck. If any kind of algo like this was in effect, trust me, you would see brutal drops and jumps all over the Serps. Not just 1%, but entire search engine would be upside down. It would be bigger than all the Penguins combined.

    There are millions websites, which have links from completely unrelated sites. Are they going to devalue them too? Or it's okay as long as the site is live, but as soon as it expires, all non relevant links will just... die? Oh my... so much bullcrap everywhere. No wonder people believe "alternative" media.

    You think wrong. Domain age is a completely useless factor with, at best, a minimum benefit. What matters is the age of the content, but once that expired, you can do whatever you want. If you want, we can make a deal. You will take 15 year old domain with 10 referring domains, I will take 3 year old one with 200, put a few articles targeting same keyword there and we will see who will rank better off the bat.
     
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  20. fastlinks

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    with a 15 years old domain, it can hold a lot of new backlinks pointing on it, it is not about getting the 200 old links. (may be i am wrong)