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Going against my better judgement to make money

Discussion in 'Copywriting & Sales Persuasion' started by bokeh, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. bokeh

    bokeh Newbie

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    There is so much potential for generating a great income selling WSO's on another forum.

    But...

    In order to do that I feel that it is necessary to target emotional responses and persuade people to buy general methods that may or may not work and sugar coating them. I do not necessarily need to be successful in the methods I will sell, as long as my sales letter converts and I manipulate people to take action I can keep blaming the bad results customers are getting on their own inaction or common generality mistakes they have made along the way.

    How can I get over this feeling of guilt I have even before setting out to create a WSO?
     
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    Wow. Bad. Just bad.

    You can't.
     
  3. hassan_isabad_subar

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    I've seen a lot of bad methods sold. Not too long ago, I saw a 3 page ebook being sold for $20. The method? Cold calling places asking if they want web design, then using wix to build them (online site builder to e-tards) and charging $200. Worth $20? Hell no. It's worth figuring out your own method and releasing it, even if it's not all that great. It's dumb though to release a sugar coated turd and have your paypal suspended.
     
  4. Amsterdammer

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    You won't get over it unless you feel comfy scamming people. I am not saying you are, I am saying you think you are and that is why you feel bad.

    So, don't use methods you personally think will not work and use a (small) case study perhaps?
    In the end though, provided your information on the topic is legit: it is their choice to buy, or not...

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    You have to believe at least a bit on the thing you try to sell...Personally, this helps me sleep better...
     
  6. bokeh

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    Have you looked at the WSO's for sale? Do you listen to the GURU's methods??

    it is how many make money in that game. most of it is re-hashed crap that people buy, and they reach cult status selling nothing more than motivation then assimilate & explain existing techniques.
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  7. bokeh

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    Yes, I think this is my problem. Its a roadblack that is preventing me to even start targeting this source of great income.

    I am looking for a way to overcome this starting anxiety
     
  8. bokeh

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    Paypal and internet marketing is a known possible issue. There are many ways around this. Take a look at how many of the JV partnerships operate.
     
  9. Amsterdammer

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    Erm, have you looked at ClickBank though? More specificly at Tom's Woodshop or free energy?
    I don't want to imply you resort to the same tactics but it is a fact that scam pops up automatically with searches on those items. Still, if I look at the gravity it seems profitable to sell it, and those buyers have a 60 days refund option...

    I always remember this song when in doubt. But scamming is not IM in my opinion so it ultimately is your choice.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTp9HWAhh5E&feature=related
    (not the original version but can't seem to play that in my current linux version, same message though. :p )
     
  10. imbackagn

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    Welcome to the MMO niche. 99.9% of people selling these products make their money from selling now applying. That being said if your method has the potential to work I wouldn't feel guilty if the person applying it doesn't succeed.
     
  11. WizGizmo

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    Two wrongs do not make a right.

    I think it is a bad idea to try to emulate the "Crap WSO" model as a way
    of making money. Create quality products and your reputation will grow.
    Create crappy products and you reputation will grow as well - but in an
    undesirable way. Be an IM Rockstar - Not an IM Schlock-star.

    "Wiz"
     
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  12. Nawshale

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    A few tips that could make you at least feel confident with your product:
    1. You must know your product inside and out
    2. Before others believe in your product, you must be the first one to adore your product
    3. Create a simple market study. Google search for the potential customers in your location then check if there's any competitor near your location.
    4. Try doing offline promotion of the product by means of leaflets, promotional T'shirts & caps or advertised in the newspaper

    These are just simple but there's no harm in trying :) cheers!
     
  13. Morgen Ster

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    Your decision will define you as a person. The so called "father of modern advertisement", David Ogilvy, couldn't write a copy for a product he didn't believe in. Could you.
     
  14. pix113

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    hey, if you can sleep well at night! wall street was selling a crap product for many years called sub prime and even hedging against it, when they got caught out the government came around and gave them a well done pat on the back with a big fat check, morale of the story bad guys finish first.
     
  15. boottothehead

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    You've got to have the stomach for it, either you do or you don't. Convincing yourself that you do will end in you realizing that you lied to yourself and you will have that to deal with along with your aching conscience.

    If that's not you find a product that does work, that you feel could work for other people, rewrite it, improve it, make it your own and release it... that's not to say that you steal someone else's idea. How many products (IM or tangable) are improvements or different flavors of other products?

    Take your motovation and make it work, create a product of your own or recreate a product to be your own. Do what you need to do to make IM work for you while also keeping your conscience happy (if a happy conscience is important to you that is).

    Boot
     
  16. nanavlad

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    If you can write good copy and do good salespages, You will probably make more doing this than selling a scammy SEO
    If you look at CB there are so many bad salespages its a joke.

    On the other hand there are actually some good products. You could promote.
    75% and a good conscience
    or 100% and guilty sleepless nights

    I know which I would choose, and I think you will choose the same. otherwise. you would already have your WSO up there/

    The other thing in that forum there are a click of guys, who back each other up and the owners of the forum, let them away with any shit. You on the other hand may not have the connections, and even with great copy. They just might sink you
     
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    You have a conscience and not everybody will agree that that's a good thing. However, it can work for you and here's one way that it can. Not everybody will love you for pointing it out, but a lot of internet marketing is for plain and simple scams, and we all know it. You can promote yourself as the ethical alternative to this. Use SEO methods to sell something that doesn't actually suck. That can be your USP. Either that or you switch off your conscience and sell the smoke and mirrors.