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Go big or go home? Or impossible?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by pitbully, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. pitbully

    pitbully Regular Member

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    I'm getting ready to start a second ecommerce site and I can't decide if the 'go big or go home' philosophy for keyword ranking is smart or ignorant, so I wanted to get some opinions, whatever they may be. This assumes that I know how to rank for moderate to difficult keywords - which I do.

    There's a massive collection of secondary (long tail) keywords I found that belong to a very specific product. All of these secondary keywords have "high" competition in adwords and most also have big box stores sitting on the first page, but there are no stores dedicated to only selling this one product (and its many variations - hence the many keywords).

    So I guess my question here is: Although the competition is steep, can this kind of situation be overcome by starting a store that sells only that product and its variations? As opposed to the big box stores which sell the product and currently rank for it, but certainly wouldn't be as relevant as a store catering to that very specific product (and its many variations) only?

    Your thoughts would be appreciated here because I'm on the fence with this theory, considering how much money and time I'll end up throwing into it before I see if it's going to work for me.
     
  2. pitbully

    pitbully Regular Member

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    Wanted to add that I'm not looking to rank quickly. Just the potential to rank at the top at some point down the road.
     
  3. Jerring

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    Is there the whole first page full of big companys?
     
  4. pitbully

    pitbully Regular Member

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    For most of the keywords I checked, big companies had the top 3-4 spots and then the rest were smaller but still fairly well known stores.
     
  5. pitbully

    pitbully Regular Member

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    Anybody else have any thoughts on this strategy?
     
  6. pitbully

    pitbully Regular Member

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    This forum has really gone to shit. Nobody discusses real issues anymore. Maybe if I wave a big red sign and say I'm going to make people rank #1 in 3 days for just $14.95 people will have something to say
     
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    Hang on. Let me go get my friends so we can all comment on your thread and make you feel better.

     
  8. pasdoy

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    wow 14.95 what a deal
     
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  9. RedMango

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    Go big dude. Aim for the big ones, and you'll catch the smaller/long-tails along the way. Use PBN/Sape to hit the big keywords and the smaller ones will come along for the ride. I'm assuming the smaller ones are still very profitable.

    Even though big name ecommerce sites are at the top, and why wouldn't they, don't be put off by this - most have problems and all you need to do is find their on-page SEO issues, outclass them, then outrank them with some BH/GHat thinking. It's not that hard really. You don't want to beat their whole site, just their specific pages, and you having a more relevant site all about that same product (and variations of it) will stand you in good stead. Use social/PPC as well if you have some budget to add diversity to your traffic sources, especially for ecommerce.
     
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  10. pitbully

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    Thanks for the valuable feedback. I'm making money bud are you making money? I'm trying to talk about real shit that makes real money which me and others on the forum could all benefit from if we talked it out a little bit. I already have a site making very strong profits, but it's based on a different marketing strategy than what I'm proposing here, so I thought I could benefit from others' opinions and then others might be able to benefit too. This is a forum and that's what forums are about - sharing ideas
     
  11. pitbully

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    Thank you brother I appreciate the feedback. I've been thinking a lot of similar things as you're saying, but it's good to see another person who thinks it might work. I've studied a bunch of companies who also seem to be successful based on this strategy but it's hard to take such an expensive risk without some confirmation that it's not stupid or unattainable
     
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    It's possible to outrank the big stores at an individual product. I've had a couple stores dedicated to 1 or 2 products that outranked amazon after a couple months.

    Just consistently build links targeted at very specific keywords/products.
     
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    You threw a hissy fit bc no one commented on your thread, then get mad and started bragging because you didn't like my response.

    Typical.

    But whatever. Say whatever you have to say to justify your response. 0 fucks.

     
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    Can I have a review copy please?
     
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