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Gigantic Lie About Education..

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  1. The Scarlet Pimp

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    Amazing.

    Thanks. :)

    Amen.
     
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    thanks, that was a great read. I have to admit I was expecting some 'crazy whining', but it was a very well thought out 'discussion'. Thanks!
     
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    iv been saying it for years, school is a brain washing program, its there to make u dependent.
     
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    Anyone have this in audio? Hitler version specifically.
     
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    school teaches one to not think. rather you just follow orders from a paid drone.
     
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    To say education, which is a forced construct bent on the generalization of undeveloped children in a dogmatic society with "required" or "common" knowledge, without feeding the children's interests and accommodating their talents and limitations in a customized environment, is actually beneficial, is absurd. It is for these and many reasons many of my kind have simply abandoned this system altogether.

    Drop-outs, they call us. Dropping out of malicious, misinformed and erroneous conformity would be considered something positive by the likes of me.

    Let the drones slave away then.
     
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    Try reading the book "Rich Dad, Poor Dad".

    That's the book that made me think big and think outside of the box.


    The problem is, we are still having the "Industrial Age" mindset. Or rather, our parents are instilling nonsensical values like:
    Go to school, get good grades, then you will find a high-paying job in future.
    or
    If you don't get high qualifications, you will get a low paying job.

    Kind of like a "socialist mindset", imo. If you're in a socialist state, that MIGHT benefit you.
    But with a capitalism state, it's all about survival of the fittest. The strong ones benefit; the weak ones suffer.
    And like they use to say "The rich gets richer, the poor gets poorer".

    Here's the problem with most people:
    Sure, you can dropout and focus on your talent - become a pop-star, a model, or a singer. The problem is.. there are many people out there trying to be one too. Unless you're the best out there, you would definitely benefit from it.

    Same with education.
    You can get high qualifications and such... but there are others who has the same qualification. Just look at a particular course, for instance, "Degree in Financial Accounting". There are hell a lot of other students studying that too. And never forget, there's other schools and the whole world.
    Imagine all of them fighting for jobs against each other.


    And the other big problem is... we are programmed in our school and by parents to study then go and work for a big corporation or something. But never about starting businesses or never do we get any financial knowledge about investing, money management, .etc.

    It's those who start businesses that exploit these talents and smart people for their benefit and reap the rest of the profits. Like bitches working for a pimp. The bitches does the job, the pimp collects the money. If the bitches don't do a good job, the pimp beats her up. Or whatever.


    If there's a recession, the employer just retrench/fires the employees. The employer chooses; the employees can't do shit but leave.
    And when you're hiring employees, you can pay them lowly, give fucked-up requirements and such, and they will still accept it reluctantly. You state the rules of the game; while the employees follow em'.



    P.S: Some statements may not make sense... because I'm slightly drunk now.
     
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    100% true! Thanx
     
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    I absolutely agree BlackSeng.

    Hell, a dropout started my whole IM career, and I'm so glad that they "fired me" from college.

    My "sixth sense" always had that feeling (since I was very young), that there's some kinda shit dropped in the middle of this whole "system". And when I say "system", I wouldn't narrow it down to only education.

    And I think, there's no time for whining about it, if you have the money and the power, you write the rules as well. So now it's time to get back to work on my next project, for reaching a new level in "getting enough money and power".

    And I know you guys will do the same.
     
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    fired you from college?
     
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    College Students Now Majoring In Debt

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/college-debt_n_471023.html

    It used to be that many college students finished school with little or no debt. But according to an ongoing project by the Huffington Post Investigative Fund, recent college graduates carry an average debt burden of $23,200.

    And as college becomes less and less affordable, that figure continues to rise. The number of student loan accounts in the U.S., said Equifax, which compiles credit data, has peaked at 69 million -- a 29 percent increase from two years ago. In total, students have borrowed $527 billion to go to school.

    Students and recent graduates are also saddled with a weighty Catch-22 -- an economic climate that makes it that much more difficult to find work that can pay off loans. So after investing thousands of dollars in their educations, many students are left with massive debt and not much else.

    HuffPost College found students -- current, graduate, and otherwise -- from around the country who are grappling with their debt.

    Here are their stories.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sara-tobin/college-debt-100000-in-de_b_471034.html
    Sara Tobin, 21, undergraduate, Tulane University.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/travis-walters/college-debt-no-regrets-i_b_471035.html
    Travis Walters, 23, undergraduate, Savannah College of Art and Design.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lindsay-carroll/college-debt-falling-in-t_b_471031.html
    Lindsay Carroll, 21, undergraduate, University of Pittsburgh.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-sussman/college-debt-wheres-our-b_b_470763.html
    Todd Sussman, 26, law student, University of Miami.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-olson/college-debt-a-state-of-i_b_471005.html
    Dan Olson, 30, University of Wisconsin (undergrad), Columbia University (graduate)

    &

    Evan Young, 27, San Francisco State University (undergrad and graduate)


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-olson/college-debt-a-state-of-i_b_471005.html
    Bliss Davis, 22, undergraduate at Bowling Green State University.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-preston/college-debt-watch-out-fo_b_471003.html
    Charlie Preston, 30, resident physician, Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sonia-galindo/college-debt-barely-getti_b_471030.html
    Sonia Galindo, 47, graduate of University of Texas-El Paso.
     
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    i like how you just snuck prison in there.
     
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    Yeah, but just because I couldn't finish it in the given time, you know. Not because of bad behavior, or selling drugs or something similar. And it was because there was no subject I was interested in but marketing. All the others were bullshit to me.

    That's all, and so as not to be so off topic, that's th main thing I don't like about education nowadays: a small amount of what you're interested in (max 10-15%), and all the others are semi- or absolutely not related bullshit.

    Ok, in high school, they must give ya a very broad range of knowledge. But I think they should at least start to teach what you should do with your money, and how to use it wisely. (Yeah, just as Kyosaki says.)

    At the college/university they should teach more practical things, and really interest-oriented, and a lot less bullshit or semi-related stuff. Only the most important basic knowledge, and more of the here's-how-you-really-do-it stuff.

    That's my point of view.

    Doc
     
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    I tried college, I think there's something in being an entrepreneur that makes you naturally rebellious toward school. I do believe it makes people dependent. I also believe not a lot of people are as focused on money as much as we are, so their priorities are different. I don't think college is useful to make money, it helps you assimilate into society and become "normalized" on a platform of our social scale. I've been told I am going to college since grade school and I never thought I had a choice in the matter. Fell in love with internet marketing and dropped out. Not because I was making money, because I didn't want a job, I wanted wealth.
     
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    nice debate here :) Really learnt a lot.

    And well, imo... logic and creativity can't get along with each other.

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    The answer is logically incorrect; but it's creative.
    Do that in school and you will fail. Thus, we are programmed to think narrowly since there's always only ONE answer to the problem.
    And I believe that is why Entrepreneurs are rebellious towards school since Entrepreneurs prefers to have many answers to one problem - creativity in solving problems.

    But of course don't get me wrong... I'm not saying we don't need school.
    School is still important in some areas of life.


    anyway what i said may not makes sense... since i'm still kinda tipsy.
     
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    damn server froze when i posted. double postings!!!