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Getting Sued From Stealing Photos?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SeanAustin, Oct 25, 2013.

  1. SeanAustin

    SeanAustin Power Member

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    I saw a post a while back on how to find pretty much any stock photo, without and watermarks. It was a great method... if your trying to get sued... right?

    I mean, sure, shutterstock isn't going to come after some micro micro niche site that is using one of its photos, but if they did happen to see a bunch of their photos on a very popular site, aren't they going to come asking questions?

    To me, it seems like the only safe way to do this is to buy the pictures... which fuging sucks.
     
  2. Freeopkiller

    Freeopkiller Junior Member

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    Try searching for 'public domain images'. If your worried about infringements, which are pretty costly these days. The old flip, resize, colorized methods won't work on copyrighted images. Generally "any original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium (including a computer file) is protected by federal copyright law upon creation" (source:http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html ). Which means pretty much everything someone creates.

    They may be other foreign sources you could get images from which might keep you under the radar. Unless you use public domain images, create the images yourself or buy them, there are simply no guarantees.

    If it were me, depending on the use. I might add or give the impression that my site allows image uploads. Create a copyright disclaimer and removal request link. This would "possibly" give me some denibility with a request.

    Don't take my reply as a solution or legal response, after all I'm just a dumb hick from montana.
     
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  3. davids355

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    I think they key to those situations is money - so yea, if you steal a few images for your personal blog they aren't likely to come after you, but if they find a load of ripped of images on a site that has A lot of traffic/presence and they know your making money then your in trouble - it wouldn't be hard for them to prove that the images aided your site in becoming popular and profitable.

    better to use royalty free images on a small site and pay for your images on a large site.
     
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  4. spmcnerd

    spmcnerd Regular Member

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    I've got letters from one image off a week old site.
    They sent a picture of the page with the image and of our trademarked logo.
    Probably 10 fat mails over 2+yrs.
    They have now sold/pawned off my alleged infringement to another buffoon.
    Nobody has contacted us through DCMA.
    Since then their known scrapers IPs are blocked and all of India (scraper location) to stop any further nagging.

    Not much advise but it shows how broad it gets.
    Matter of fact I wish someone would steal my logo...
    Good Luck!
     
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  5. WebOracle

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    If you are in the U.S it's better to go the safe route and pay for use or royalty fee images. I am speaking from experience, I outsourced a website build for a client and about 1 month later my client called me up and said that they got a lawsuit letter regarding the use of an image on their site. Long story short I had to settle the strong arm threat so that my client would not be sued. $750 for 1 image. I am pretty sure this is how Getty Images makes the bulk of their money.
     
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  6. ttmschine

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    If the image belongs to Getty images then they'll be after you for $Thousands. I'm sure you know who Getty is, they're mega rich and employ an army of lawyers just to send out letters to idiots who are daft enough to gamble a multi-$Thousand law suit rather than pay $5 for a license to use an image.

    Being a newb is one thing, being a rank amateur is another, but being a blathering idiot is inexcusable.
     
  7. MadStacks

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    If you have the image on your website how the hell do they know if you bought it or not or if your friend bought it and is letting
    you have it. I still do not understand there this problem arises.
     
  8. gavinb

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    well you know be creative (make your own images) or be rich (buy them). Otherwise you can put a linkback to their site and maybe they won't sue you?
     
  9. nikiobicata

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    Good point :) I'm asking the same question
     
  10. SeanAustin

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    Yea, that's kind of what I was thinking about when I asked the question. With what david said, I think with a site that's making little to no money, doing this would be just fine. But when your banking straight cash, there going to come asking questions, and you most likely won't be able to say "Yea I bought it a while ago", because then they'll ask for your customer ID and check to see if your a customer and exactly what you downloaded from their site. And if you can't show them what they want, get ready to fess up a couple thousand + dollars.

    Thanks for the answers everyone, looks like I'm just going to have to play it safe and sign up for the 5 images a day for $69 plan. If I actually manage to snag 5 images a day, then i'll be paying less than 50 cents per image. For that cheap, I might as well play it safe!

    Cheers

    But then again, this is BHW.
     
  11. SpiderBlast

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    I use to use copyrighted images like crazy back in the day. In fact, I stole an image from my direct competitors website, and use it on my site then ranked my page above is. It took about 6 weeks, but what they did was call us and politely request to take it down. Then... because I'm an asshole, I asked "how can you copyright a picture of a wall?" It didn't have their logo or anything, anything about their product or biz, it was just a wall with water coming through it.

    They responded, "please take the picture down or we will call our attorney". I said "fine" then hung up.

    Moral of the story, I really DOUBT that someone would try to sue you over a photo unless you were using the photo in a really bad way, or if you were big enough a name (like Mark Cuban lol) and people thought they could sue you for everything. I'd imagine in most cases they'd contact you, rather than pay a lawyer to bring you to court. But on the other hand, if we were a major multimillion dollar brand, I'm sure someone wouldn't hesitate a minute to sue us.

    -SB
     
  12. richardarquette

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    .. wait so confused, if images purchased royalty free' can still be used right? isnt getty like that? i was goin gto use graphic stock
     
  13. starki

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    Maybe have a look at Wikimedia Commons.

    They have a huge database of images mainly used by Wikipedia and loads of them are public domain or at least free for commercial use. Depends a bit on your niche, the type of images is a bit diffrent from the stock material (few typical business type images like people in suits shaking hands or similar).
     
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    sxc.hu is good for free images
    Wikipedia has bunch as well


     
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  15. JoeMongan

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    I never once had an issue with using copyright images and not paying for them. It is a crime you can even
    charge for some images.
     
  16. KHer0

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    Well, I always wanted to say this ! F!CK AMERICA !

    I mean your federal ... don't know what don't have something better to do. I mean like real crimes! Is America crime free now and hunting people who use images from google on their website :S I don't really get and I won't get it

    Yes, I use photoshop to create my own images as I love being unique. But still! What kind of lawsuite because photo copyright.... Like there is a judge, and someone complain, I had this photo on my website first, then he came and stole it. Finally, the judge say, you gonna spend the rest of your life in the prison, sit!.

    What about thousands of file sharing websites with free download to millions of copyrighted materials!

    How do they even know if I didn't made an image myself! like if you have and image and I have the same image who is the original owner? How can you prove it? and if you have an image and I made my own similar image on photoshop! what is your problem!

    Yeah, I can understand copyright law in the real life. As I publish a book and paid huge amount of money for making copies and buying it from the author. So,You can't just start copying and selling it!

    But I made a photo on photoshop, publish it on the net and then I say no one dare to use it :s

    FINAL QUESTION! WHY DON'T THEY SUIT FACEBOOK ! I'M SURE THEY HAVE MILLIONS OF COPYRIGHTED PHOTOS! Profile photos, cover photos and shared photos. And they make millions! Google Images is all about showing copyrighted photos! I saw no one complaining about it!

    Or the law doesn't apply on people with power just like in the real life!
     
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  17. stharthjw6j

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    Go to Google images > Advanced Search > Usage Rights > Free to use, share or modify, even commercially.

    These are images you can do what you want with :)
     
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  18. KHer0

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    Good luck finding anything worth using with these on. Most people don't even know about those copyright shit. It's a standart procedjure when you save photos from Photoshop.
     
  19. bertbaby

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    Look at it the other way. You just spent hours or a lot of money on getting your images and some jarboni with a browser decides to steal your hard work for nothing, not even giving you a credit. How would you feel about that turn of events?

    I have been on both sides of the copyright issue and whenever feasible I chose to pay people for their work. And yes the images in the banner below were paid for!