Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by The Scarlet Pimp, May 8, 2008.
Check my sig. Some of us over in the seo world do this in 4 to 7 minutes, as many times as we want. It's not great unless you get great traffic from it. For highly competitive KWs, (past 221,000 results) we have to actually use backlinks. LOL! This means it can take us another 30 to 60 minutes with automation. SEO is a 100 Million Dollar Industry.
The best customers are in the porn and gaming industries where they like to use brute force tactics. Like 100 million backlinks, ect.
I agree. Traffic alone isn't worth very much, but targeted traffic is worth its weight in platinum.
That article was OK read...nothing ground breaking...about setting up sites like Marlon suggest...
seoagent - that was a damn good read, thanks!...I don't fully understand how to "remove" the ping feature, so I'm gonna study that post a bit...
When you say, "If you have a regular static website, then just publish as you normally do, but you will still need to post a link to every story if you want to be sure of getting all your content indexed in the general index of Google."
If the site is static with just an article section, where would you post the "link to every story" and ping url once you're going to publish your last content for the day?
I understand the wordpress procedure, but the static site thing is new to me...
Okay, what you would do is buy a regular hosting account. Like Gator Hosting for example. It's about $6-$7. You get the first month for around one cent, really. Ask for a coupon through their live chat, they''ll give you a link.
Whne you get it, use the c-panel and click on to the Fantastico Icon. You will see alot of options you can have installed. One of them is an automatic WP install. Click it and it will do it in abouth 20 seconds. There now you have a generic WP. Go to WP to read on installing new templates.
You don't have to if you don't want to. The blog is done. Now upload your regular website. Most are static, meaning thet are nothing more than just pictures, graphics and text. They are called static, becaus ethere is no script called when someone visits your website. a dynamic website by contrast does call up scripts, most in php, which mostly draw up some content from a database. This is what WP does. It's a dynamic website of sorts.
But for this exercise, just look at it as a blog. Now when you build your website on your own PC, make a link to the url front page of your blog. Then upload your site. That's it wasn't that easy so far!?
Now all you do is logon to your WP blog with the password and user name you set up in the Fantastico Section of your C-Panel Gator Hosting Account. Go and post a short story about the web page you want people to visit. Place a link in the WYSIWYG authoring Interface of WP. It's just like posting here on the forum. Now when you hit the "Publish" button in WP, the story will appear on your main page on your blog.
And here come the SE spiders from the ping signals you sent to the ping services via the ping urls in your WP Admin section. They will spider your new post, and then crawl your new webpage on your static site as well as all your other pages on your website.
Well, thats it in a nutshell. This model of blog and ping has been around in popularity since 2004. You can do the same with Live Space for MSN SE, Blogger for Google SE. and Yahoo 360 Blog for Yahoo SE. The benefit of having your own blog on the same hosting account as your website is you are calling out to the SE spiders to come and crawl your own blog and all the website content.
Also once you have a WP blog, you can simply write any post and place any links in it you like to cause the SE spiders to crawl that site. You can set up other hosting accounts, other websites on the same hosting account. Anything you want crawled and use the same blog as you announcing station to get all your content indexed.
But as I mentioned, It is only the first step. In the "old days" around the turn of the millennium, we used press releases to get indexed traffic during the times of $200 inclusions in Yahoo and Google was in it's infancy.
Now you have to concern yourself with backlinks.
The part of the removing the ping urls and modifying them is written on my blog. It's in the same story. Check it out. If it still doesn't make sense to you, look under the miscellaneous tab in your WP Admin Section once you logon to your WP Blog and scroll to the bottom. There is where there is a text box to cut and paste ping urls to rss feeds, video feeds, just about any blog announcing service you want, including Google's Blog Index.
The spiders come crawling in about 5 minutes or less. But take note, you want to remove these as soon as you get your blog up. Becasue every time you make even a option change in your WP CMS Admin Section, your WP Blog will ping these services for every little change made. This is what gets your site banned form a few hours, days, or several months.
WP is not there to totlally teach you everything. Just as web building software doesn't teach you about SEO. Same thing. You have to do your own reading. And lots of it. The more your read, the more you know, the better you get, the more you make money online. :super:
Glad you like it. I modified it. I could completely tear it apart, but I am working on a different platform right now than WP, so I don't have the time.
But once you understand all the working components of the WP CMS and document them. And you learn at least how php is working the CMS, then you can build your own templates for the WP Community.
As a force for driving traffic, I would get at it, but I'm in a position to simply partner with any template builder, which will no doubt happen. Because WP is a 20 million user market. And it can really drive a good 100k in visitor traffic each month for each great looking template you build.
So yes, it takes time to learn how to build WP Theme Packages. It takes less time to learn how to build plugins, but both at least require a good understanding of php. You can get a good handle on it within two weeks of eight hour days, and after four weeks, you can start coding on your own without too much thinking.
Yet alot of use are onto AJAX now, because of server speeds to serve up more data faster. Anyways, if you want the template, it was designed by http://www.ndesign-studio.com/
You should be able to get it there. If you have any further questions about it and how to get it working for you, just leave a message somewhere on my blog. It's getting a little tough now to keep up to all the forum chatter on all the forums I seem to living at. RAs it is, I am 24/7 logged on to five or six at a time for days, just to get back to everyone, but I appreciate your interest, just the same.
Hey, Thanks for explaining that in such detail
Trying to catch up from all his hacking sacking forum warz, lol
I'm going to try this on a new site I'm going to launch sometime soon. In the past I've followed a method of just getting about 10-15 articles from ezinearticles and posting it in my nav menu (static site built with XSitePro). It looks sloppy to me and love to change that. Heard of that from the Blackhat Xsitepro video tutorials on here...
I'm assuming it'd just be better to install WP in site.com/blog and post those 10-15 articles as blog entries, ping removed, then after last post just ping according to your instructions? Or does the blog have to be installed on it's own domain, then link to the site you want to index quickly?
Hey thanks again, this is nice information
LOL you call that HIGH COMPETITIVE ??? should be a piece of cake if the top positions are not KW optimized!! i would say even more, should be easy to get top 5 rank in a few days...
and by the way, there's a plugin to change the shitty wordpress ping feature! search for maxblogpress ping optimizer...
How many posts do you advise to publish when trying to get indexed? Would 4 be enough, I noticed your blog has an example with "10 stories"...
Also, this is just for indexing right, after I'm indexed I can just update the blog with rss, still with no ping?...
I can not get my wordpress sites to last more than 3 weeks with google
I use WSI Ping Modifier by Tim Gallagher. (one ping per day) and Auto Social Poster By Anthony Ellis. (bookmark every post) maybe it is the Auto Social Poster that cause my bans -- I guess I will have to try to remove both and see how I go -- also I maybe caused by other problem as I normally build
100 wordpress blogs subdomains on the domain and it would mean I am pinging
100 times per day from one IP -- I get a lot of page indexed every day but of cause I get banned very quickly --
Thanks SEOAGENT for taking the time with such detailed answers. I hadn't considered the number of pings a WP blog might be sending by default.
Does anyone have an opinion on what might be going on with the situation DONDUCK seems to be experiencing? I'm particularly interested in whether Auto Social Poster could be contributing to his problem since I have been considering installing it on a couple of my blogs.
It's always something... I noticed that my blog was not getting any visits after a while -- never knew about that ping problem. I just installed the MBP plugin, hope it helps.
I do know that blogs get traffic like nothing else. I did a test last year where I did a brief article about some Hollywood gossip and I got instant traffic to my site.
I'm having a strange issue where my new blog is getting traffic from google for my keywords but Google has only indexed one page. Even stranger still, Google gave this site, which was only a month old (but I think someone else had used the domain name years ago), a PR3 in the last update.
Try changing Customize Permalink Structure
Yeah, I want to try this one clean indexing a static site with wp in /blog. Not going to use any auto posting, just want to see what the results are with one ping a day from one blog. However I'd still like to know if there's a 'sweet spot' so to say with the amount of content or number of published posts a day before it looks like too much or too little resulting in a ban.
Noob here, but I have some blogging experience and would definitely do what was suggested and get the maxblogpress ping optimizer plugin for WP. It doesn't ping everytime you make an edit to your posts, but only when you put a NEW post.
Well, even with that plugin helping with the pinging every edit...it doesn't really apply to what seoagent's post advises.
You're supposed to ping every post in the first place, just ping after you've published a bunch of content for the day.
So let's say you want to index your blog or site quickly, write up I guess 5-10 optimized posts and schedule them to publish throughout the day. However on the last post, you ping just once. So you wouldn't be pinging 5-10 times.
I wasn't fully sure if maxblogpress plugin was capable of doing that. if so, that'd make it easier too.
SEO Agent is a guy I intend to follow closely.
To confirm then, setup the blog..then post first post (which will be pinged) then remove pinglist?
Only add back in at end of each day?
Your welcome. Just use the auto installer under the Fantastico Link in your C-Panel found on many hosting company websites. Try Host Gator to start for around 1 cent for the first month (ask Live Help for a 1 penny coupon) and then $6 to $14 a month, depending on how much heavy lifting you want to do. Unlimited websites, bandwidth, email addresses, live help, ect.
Install the blog as /blog for one webiste. Otherwise install on a separate domain to announce all your websites. Remember, all seo rules apply. This means it is better for each website to have it's own blog. And to keep your blog at least topic specific around the twenty primary keywords which drive traffic to your website.
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