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Get rid of star ratings in the marketplace already...

Discussion in 'Forum Suggestions & Feedback' started by Jared255, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Jared255

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    3 reasons

    • I have not seen a single thread with over 10 ratings, ever. Any star rating isn't indicative of the actual quality of the service. Sample size is simply not large enough. No one ever rates threads.
    • You can rate your own thread 5* right after it gets published. Most of the 5* threads have one review.
    • Competitors can blast you with 1* ratings, as they have my writing thread, and even though star ratings aren't indicative of quality, many people don't know that they aren't, so they judge them by that anyways...
     
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    That's wack. If what you just outlined is true, then I would have to agree.
     
  3. Trepanated

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    I never even look at those ratings as I also think they are meaningless.

    The only thing that counts for me is reputation and reviews from people who are trustworthy.
     
  4. BassTrackerBoats

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    That is not the first time this has been brought up and I agree 100%.

    The rating system is nothing more than the old rep system that was eliminated a few years back with a twist. It can be, and is manipulated with not substance as to the manipulation.

    BHW should find the delete button that is associated with it.
     
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    Oh well, posted about this last year nothing happened and rating system is still there. It's about time they should do something about it.

    Reviews, itrader is there so what's the point of having a rating system which can be easily manipulated? Doesn't make sense to me.
     
  6. Asif WILSON Khan

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    Agreed, Too many BS/threads/services have 5* ratings and it is obvious what has been done.
    I never look at ratings. Unfortunately the naive will be swayed by it.
     
  7. Duffers5000

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    Agree with the eliminating thread rating. Its an easily gamed metric on a black hat forum !

    i- Trader is also a bit of a joke. Like most people here I have received reviews for less than 10% of the purchases I have made here. Some sort of automated email that prompts you to leave a review one month after purchase might help.
     
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    I agree. It's a competitor's dream.
     
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    Love the passion guys and it's something we're working on for the new BHW marketplace - ideas on how you would replace it also appreciated.

    Ebay style feedback
    Amazon style
    or something else?
     
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    How about a review system that requires a reference number from the seller? That way, only legitimate customers will be able to leave a review.

    Obviously though, this will require some sort of verification on BHW's side, to be sure the reference numbers used by reviewers are legit.
     
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  12. Trepanated

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    The problem with any rating system, particularly in a Black Hat forum, is that some people will attempt to game the system.

    Perhaps it would be worth having more than one Admin/Mod taking a review copy for each BST and having a standardised set of review metrics.

    If there were 3 Admin/Mod reviews per BST, for example, posts 2, 3 and 4 could be reserved for those reviews.

    You don't necessarily have to wait until all 3 reviews are in before the thread goes live - but 3 such reviews will give a better idea of the quality of the service.
     
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    I would vote to eliminate both the Rating System and the iTrader Score, without a replacement.

    I believe that the reviews are more then enough most of the times to judge a service.
     
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    I would support a system similar to this. I do like the ebay feedback system, as it easily presents the potential buyers with the feedback score and number of customers who have rated the product/seller. Having a sort of system where verified buyers are allowed to post reviews and thus influence the sellers score would be fantastic.
     
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    star rating can be fake or sponsored. there's no point of start rating than reviews.
     
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    I used to use a classified mod that integrates into VB ...DragonByte Classifieds. Worked really well with lots of features. Maybe something like this might be an idea.
    [h=2][/h]
     
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    While you're at it, please consider an option to stop those annoying 'new post' animated Gifs from flashing at me, just a different icon would do to show there's a new post.
     
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    Its a blackhat forum
    no matter what system you use, It will be gamed

    Having said that, Itrader at least can be controlled
    perhaps a reminder to give an itrader after each transaction
    Would work best
     
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    DD, first get rid of this guy:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/688555-sky-tiger.html

    A five star thread with NO legit reviews?
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...he-sites-wall-street-making-money-online.html

    www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/...ss-best-kept-secrets-making-money-online.html
     
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