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Get Business Owners To Take Me Seriously (Age 19)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Yildiz, Jul 6, 2014.

  1. Yildiz

    Yildiz Regular Member

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    Hey everyone, I'm 19 (Just turned today). Anyways, I'm quite successful online but I'm trying to get some things going offline as well (local website creation) but i'm afraid that when I go to meet up with business owners they won't take me very seriously. The great thing about IM is that I don't have to meet up in person but when dealing with offline I don't know if I could get them to respect my intellect/knowledge of the online world. I'm currently a University student at a state university, studying Computer Science, so I thought maybe that could be something that I'd tell them to give them some confidence in my capabilities. What would you do if you were in my position? Thanks!
     
  2. lucasbraydon

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    Take a sexy girl with you dressed in formal attire :D
     
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  3. pavan

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    just be confident and go for it
    start with small companies just to build confidence before you go to actual potential customers
    they won't take you seriously if you are not confident enough
     
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    The best thing you can do is take age and ability out of the question entirely - and you do that by presenting confidently and by exuding intelligence and knowledge.

    They'll only make it an issue if they detect it to be one, and it will only be detected as one if you think it is one.
     
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  5. Yildiz

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    I'm pretty confident in my capabilities, do you think that it is harder for a younger person like myself to charge as much as an older person would for my services?
     
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    Some people will pre-judge you and other won't.

    Do everything you can to present yourself in the right way from the outset:

    Make sure your written and phone communication is as professional and business like as possible and for face-to-face meetings, dress appropriately.

    You could also try dealing with their potential concerns before they come up - let them know early in the proceedings that although you are only 19, you have been working in the industry for X years and have many satisfied clients.

    Also, that pre-judging will be more prevalent in older people, so you could try approaching businesses owned by younger people.

    You will find that most people will change their minds once they realize you can deliver the services they want.
     
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  7. imserious

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    People will not take you seriously till you behave like a 19 year old kid.

    Here is what you need to do:

    Wear something which states you mean business.

    Start a blog - write some authentic sounding shit on it ( example - god something and M W )

    Hype yourself as an expert ( Have some testimonials from others in the circlejerk)

    Sell your services.
     
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  8. Yildiz

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    @Trepanated Awesome advice bro, I feel much better about this stuff now :)
    @imserious da truth

    And yeah, about looking presentable, my dad owns a tuxedo store so I'll just get a nice one from him for my business trips. and maybe shave :(
     
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    I never had a problem with it, to be honest people generally don't care how old you are.
    Telling them you go to college is probably a bad idea, people like to think you're working all day long, not going to college and doing this as a ''side job'' looks pretty unprofessionally.

    Don't mention things that make you look like an idiot. You're there for business and if they choose not to do any with you then fuck them.
    And seriously any business owner knows that college is a scam for anyone working for themselves with exception of lawyers etc.
    Be honest about the cost and ask them what they need and answer their questions, that's all you really need to do.

    If they ask about your education you can tell them, but beginning about it is like walking in and telling them you have a ferrari. If they ask nobody cares, if they don't you look like an asshole and you defenitly are one.

    Depending on where you live you can even go in with a tshirt and jeans, nobody cares. If you're going to classy meeting that's different just try to blend in.
     
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    Had the same problem bro :)
    I just went out and didn't give a shit about what they thought. I knew my product and what I was capable of, that's all that I needed.
    Didn't close any deals on my first day, only few people took interest, but at least I did it and will keep doing it!

    Imagine you're 80 years old, thinking back what a pussy you were at 19. lol
     
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    I had the same problems in a different field when I was young and selling. I would get the periodic "but you are only a kid" comment and my response was, "Sure, I'm young but I know what I am talking about and more so, the product is spectacular and does more than anyone at any age could possibly tell you so you are getting much more than you even see."

    Took the youth factor right out of the equation and put the clients' eyes on the product I was selling.

    I'm sure that you have a whole lot more on the ball than I did so you'll be rolling in clients in no time.
     
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    Do you shave. Facial hair can increase you perceived age by 10 years.

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    Deal's sealed if the first button's open.
     
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    Be confident mate, many will think you are just a kid and many will take you for your confidence. If you earn a good income to keep an employee, then you should get a good PA who can do all the basic explaining stuff and is a bit older than you. :)
     
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    If you can't take yourself seriously, no one else will.
     
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    It all starts with you. You must be confident in yourself first. If you are not showing confidence why would business owners take you seriously? Just change your mind set and you will be fine.
     
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    Show them money. Money attracts money. When they see Rolex in your hand they will know how successful you are.

    I know most people gonna say that its illogical to show them money and knowledge/experience matter most. Yeah true to some extent. But you need opportunity to demonstrate that experience/knowledge and people don't think logically. People are emotional fools.
     
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    This ^^

    Most peope outside the Blackhat community don't know a thing about SEO, and that kinda means some professional SEO types too.

    Once you start posting Black Hat and in-depth stuff that's not even on the SEO communities radar people take notice big time.

    Warning: Get decent hosting setup for your blog, you will get dugg / reddit / hackernews / retweeted / google+ if your content is top draw.

    Other than that just get out there, make mistakes and don't be scared to make those mistakes either, it's how everyone learns!
     
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    Some of the replies here are a little funny to me. Flashing rolex's and being a Tony Montana infront of your clients is a bit hilarious.

    The most common ground you have to connect to with ANY business owner is: Things started from the ground up. Understanding that persistence is key. Knowing that wisdom comes from experience and not from textbooks. Simply put, you have to understand that business comes with hard work and persistence. Valueing hard/smart work and persistence already gives out good signs to the client.

    If you are presenting a product to your client, speak to him on his personal ground. There are surely grounds that the business owner stands on that the product could compliment on or provide improvement on.

    Age is not a factor. Leave your age aside when you are presenting a product. Just solely focus on the product and the client's relation to the product. The first thing that starts is not you, it's the lead. Pick the right leads. And then present the product to the person. If you're presenting a product to someone that has no interest in the product then you need to get back to step 1, which is picking your leads. That's where it all starts, leads leads.

    Then when you've got your lead, approach the client. How you introduce yourself really depends through which means you do it. But always keep in mind, it is about the product. When you speak to the client, speak through the concern of HIS business and be mindful of what he needs and deserves in order to grow further. That is in the end what business owners want. Someone who understands their environment. Finding common ground is KEY. Once you are able to make the right connection with the client based on understanding what the client is going through then it's really a much more easy-going relationship.

    At first when getting to know the client, do not start pushing your product into their face. Talk to them about their business, get a good understanding of what it is they are dealing with and what you are essentially dealing with in the end. And then simply assist. Business is not about robotic communication or how one can fool the other (Unless that's your thing).

    It's about being assertive, having a vision, being persistent and carrying a sense of your own human self, being understanding and giving the honest impression to the client that you are there with him (Big +1)
     
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