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German Link Analysis Shows Which Link Types Still Work And Which You Better Avoid

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by subster, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. subster

    subster Elite Member

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    Hi there,

    I just came upon an article from very interesting value. They analyzed 20 penguin winners and 20 losers with a total link amount from 80K backlinks from various sources.
    The company found some clear speaking numbers about which link types work and which are hurting your sites. The percentages show how much of that link type the analyzed penguin winners and losers have built.

    Here are the very interesting results:


    Authority Links
    Note: Ment are not some "HQ Web2.0s", ment are real Authority sites like elle.com or others.

    Winner Sites: 9%
    Looser Sites 0,9%
    Recommended: YES - Grade:1 (A+)

    Forums
    Winner Sites: 34%
    Looser: Sites: 9%
    Recommended: YES - Grade:2 (B)

    Blogs
    Winner Sites: 27%
    Looser Sites 10%
    Recommended: YES - Grade:2 (B)

    Yellow Pages
    Winner Sites: 2,1%
    Looser Sites: 1,5%

    Recommended: YES, why not - Grade:3 (C)

    Q&A Sites
    Winner Sites: 1,1%
    Looser Sites: 0,9%
    Recommended: YES, why not - Grade:3 (C)

    Press Release Sites
    Winner Sites: 4%
    Looser Sites: 8%

    Recommended: YES, but only a few! - Grade:4 (D)

    Social Bookmarks
    Winner Sites: 14%
    Looser Sites: 32%

    Recommended: YES, but only very very handpicked - Grade:5 (E)

    Directories
    Winner Sites: 8%
    Looser Sites: 22%

    Recommended: YES, but only very very handpicked - Grade:5 (E)

    Article Sites
    Winner Sites: 0,4%
    Looser Sites 16%

    Recommended: NO, never in my life - Grade:6 (D)

    Shocking impressive (red are the ones that used article links and lost rankings):
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    The results have clearly shown that almost ALL penguin winners (higher rankings after penguin) have no links from article directories and almost all that have had a loss in rankings.

    You can read the whole article here http://www.libako.de/linkaufbau-studie-9-linkarten
    Please use google translate, if something is not clear, dont hestitate to ask me.
     
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  2. masterjani

    masterjani Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Great! People already stopped using article directories for money sites. Now they need to stop poor web directories too.
     
  3. ActionTaker

    ActionTaker Power Member

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    Did it actually take into account that there's a disproportionally high amount of spammers using article directories? I think it can still be effective but you've got to watch link velocity as well as only submitting good content and of course anchor variation.

    But thanks a lot for the share!
     
  4. seoquickheal

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    Hi,

    Can give a organic Social Media Sharing for your German based websites for free. just to show our service that will help you.

    sorry to interrupt your thread.
     
  5. yoyo33

    yoyo33 Regular Member

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    One of the best studies after penguin update.
    I just entered BHW to relax... ahhh... rep added dude!!!
     
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  6. TheLinkGuy

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    I'm curious how much of this is based on founded factual information?

    Meaning, is this really based on Penguin linkbuilding tactics or just hearsay
     
  7. gvncerri

    gvncerri Regular Member

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    Thanked and bookmarked. I think it's difficult to convince an authority site to give you a backlink. Do you have always to pay for that?
     
  8. TwistedSEO

    TwistedSEO Regular Member

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    I still use article directories and get great results post penguin. I think its more about diversity and maybe people who use article directories just spam AMR like crazy (disproportionate to their other link types). I use only moderated high PR article directories for my first tier, pr 1+ for my tier 2, and the rest on tier3/4.

    A mistake lots of new in SEO make is they don't filter their article list to remove de-indexed ones. Article directories have the most de-indexed sites out of all the platforms I use, and I would never want to post to a deindexed + auto approved site, even for my highest tiers. It might work for small MNS sites that aren't meant to survive updates in the first place, but I've stopped building those types of sites so I can't really say if it still works or not.

    The bookmarking stats are interesting but I have no clue about it. I use only the top 10 social bookmarking sites to bookmark my tier 1s, and the lower quality PR3+ for every other tier. So far it doesn't seem to be a problem but if they're not doing much I wouldn't mind getting rid of them. Their such a headache for me to do.

    Anyone know if this research is even credible?
     
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  9. migrashin

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    Interesting stats, thanks for posting
     
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    thinktoomuch Newbie

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    are they only checking out for those 40 sites? and only 80K links being analyzed?
     
  11. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It is an interesting analysis. Generally, there is not a bad links type, that the links come from content, if the domains links come from have high authority, and they are not spammed by other people too much. It is nice to know forums work, he says that number of posts is important, but i do not think so. It is the most important to post manually links in threads of forums, not just on profile page. This is completely natural but time consuming as well.

    About article directories, they usually have no authority, they are blasted to death, Google think they are a content farm, and they are full of grammatically incorrect meaningless articles.
     
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  12. whynotmakeit

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    Appreciate this post. good to see confirmation. thanks
     
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    This is THE post

    thanks
     
  14. HighTop123

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    I am surprised there is no mention of social links, facebook shares, twitter etc.......
     
  15. subster

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    Did you ever rank something with social links? Personall I can't surely say yes.
    I think the importance grows with the time, but currently they are more for overall authority then for single keyword rankings.
     
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    Pretty good read (ran it trough Google translate) - can anyone translate the "perfect link profile" graphic at the bottom of the article???

    Here is what I got:

    Sonstige links
    Premium Gastartikel
    Authority Links
    Hochwertiger Linktausch
    Sinnvolle Forenbeitrage
    Eintrage in asugewahlte Verzeichnisse
    Branchenbucher
    Seriose Pressemeldungen


    Other links
    Premium Guest Article
    Authority links
    High quality link exchange
    Meaningful contributions Forums
    Entries in directories asugewahlte
    industry Bucher
    Press releases for parties


    So, what do "Eintrage in asugewahlte Verzeichnisse" and "Branchenbucher" translate to?
     
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    Ausgewählte Verzeichnisse mean hand picked web directories. Branchenbücher means Yellow Pages like sites.
     
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    No, the data is not depending on hearsay. You know we Germans are very accurate. The data source is the company that offers an outstanding analysis tool (sistrix), they gathered the data from these sites and analyzed for the first conclusion. This blogpost is further analysis for other factors, but based on the reliable sistrix data.

    The analyzed sites are serious money sites and no MNS. We don't have that culture big time over here, tell someone here from blackhat and they will loose very confindence in you. I am analyzing many of my competitors. I have one that made bad blog comment spam ( i believe it has been neg seo), the others do ALL very long term white hat seo without exclusion. Shady SEO is rare over here, Monchichi has much more overview on this scene here, and I think it would say I am right.

    No not always. If you have good USP they can come from alone. I got a backlink from one of the biggest newspapers this week - even without any contact before.

    Yes.