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General Backlinks Questions

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by S1lv3rdo7, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. S1lv3rdo7

    S1lv3rdo7 Regular Member

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    I've been reading some stuff from Google and as usual I come to BHW to verify with people who actually know what they're doing. Just some general questions.

    1) When using a backlink checker to analyze your competitors backlinks (and copy them) is it important to use proxies? I mean it makes sense to me that if you have links created by the same IP coming to one site from various sources it looks unnatural. Private would obviously be the best, but I assume free public ones would work too?

    2) Is there a maximum amount of links you can get from one site? I heard that for example, in forums Google only accounts for 3 links. Which makes forum marketing for SERPS (not traffic) pointless. Are forums the only type or do other sites apply?

    3) What are the percentages for varying anchor texts? I read that your tier one links should be naked urls (http://mysite.com). Then teir 2 and 3 would vary 50/50 (due to humming bird update with synonyms) with generic and targeted keywords? Is that right, or am I way off?

    I've been researching this stuff since I'm about to launch some MNS Adsense sites (13) for the first time and want to nail it!

    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    For question 1,2, i would leave it to higher up experts.

    For question 3, after penquin, i have done some researches and i found this:

    within the niche i researches in, the top 10 site have a huge variety of anchor text, here is an example i found: Main (14%), naked URL (with Https:// 9% and 8% to non http) a big list of long tail varies from 1.4% to 7%.
    And lastly, while over 40% is a big list of smaller anchor text.

    Not telling that this is accurate, just a little bit of my experience though.
    Hope that helps.
    Peter
     
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  3. c0bbz

    c0bbz Registered Member

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    I can't think of any reason not to use proxies, they are normally recommended when building links using software so should still be beneficial to manual backlinking. But yeah, like peterngo91 said, probably wait for a few more experienced people to comment about proxies before you go building links.
    Good luck with your sites
     
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    2. No
    3. Ideally, at least in my opinion, ~ 30% raw URL, 10% exact or partial keyword, 20% click here, visit this website, 30% random anchor texts (Here on my blog... etc), 10% Image links
     
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  5. FutureProofSeo

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    Depends on where the links are, ie manually requesting links on others sites leave no IP footprint, but proxies are used so you can do multiple things at once without triggering "spam filters".
    TBH correct me if I am wrong, but I can see no reason why any link submitted should contain an "IP footprint" in its final form, only information about the time it was submitted (and others submitted in similar time frames), so use proxies for automatically generated links.

    Think of it as looking "natural", if a site was constantly linking out to another website, you would be suspicious that they were affiliated. Although I have no direct proof, I would say anymore than one or two links would leave an obvious affiliation, and throw up Google alarm bells, and is probably something that would be covered in a future update.
    Keep it varied, as a rule if you are creating automatic links, then these should be as LSI or generic as possible, then save the high pr (bought or network) links for more direct match keywords. If you have a branded site, make sure you add brand name anchors in there. Percentages are just a guide, but if you check high ranking authority sites, often over 50% of the anchor text in Majestic is "Other", very natural and very hard to create with an automatic program (unless you add 100+ anchor spins which might take you a while :p ).
     
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  6. keyser

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    1) Are you talking about looking up in aHrefs etc? Why would you need proxies to do that?

    2) No, that's nonsense

    2) I've been seeing success with around 10%-20% but it varies from niche to niche, try downloading all the top ranking sites backlinks in your sector and examine what percentage they are using then copy it.
     
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    I hated when I used my software's "inbuilt" public proxies and spent hours of time and had several failed test results.
    So if you want to get as quick and as accurate results as possible then it's useful to spend that 10-40 USD/month for private proxies,
    but it's obviously depends on the amount of your monthly work.
    Consider your time's value.
     
  8. S1lv3rdo7

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    No, I meant once I start actually building the links. You're right on the money with what you said. That's what I plan on doing. I was going to use SEO Spyglass (because it's a one time charge) and get all the back links from the top 10 results in Google. Then start building links to those pages as well.

    I was wondering if it would be weird to have 1 IP address creating all those links. Even spread out over a few days my IP only refreshes every 24 hours. (cable)

    Good idea on copying the anchor text variance.
     
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    Skip all of the above and build private blog network.
     
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    I was referring exactly that software and the whole SEO Powersuite.
    Google will give you much more failed test result if you a) don't use proxy b) use public proxies.
    Note I only wrote about analyzing competition and not about creating backlinks.
     
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  11. keyser

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    You will need more than SEOSpyglass, get aHrefs it's the best but Majestic is almost as good.

    When submitting the links Google won't know if it all came from one IP but chances are your IP will get blocked by spam filters/cloudflare so you will need proxies for a higher success rate.
     
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  12. S1lv3rdo7

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    The reason why I don't buy aHref's is because you only get 5K link reports for $79 and you're paying monthly for service instead of a 1 time price for software that performs just as well and doesn't have restrictions.