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Galaxy Nexus barred from sale in the U.S.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by UndeadCircus, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. UndeadCircus

    UndeadCircus Junior Member

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    It looks as if Apple is becoming one of the biggest patent trolls of our time. I actually own the Galaxy Nexus (good thing I got it a month ago, before this crap went down). This is a ton of B.S. and hopefully, it won't effect Google releasing Android Jelly Bean for the device, seeing as how the Galaxy Nexus was supposed to be one of the first devices to get the major update. As if I couldn't hate the company any more than I already do, Apple is really starting to piss me off lately with all of this patent bullshit.

    Source: http://anonym.to/?http://www.latime...samsung-galaxy-nexus-20120629,0,5421074.story
     
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    This is why I refuse to buy any apple product. They are monopolizing the future, which hinders competition.
     
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    Yup, i dont like apple for there monopolistic ways, nor do i like there products since i also find that they try to suck you money by nickle and diming. No way around it, they want to squeeze every penny out of you
     
  4. hamish11

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    Look at the flip side, do you think the Galaxy Nexus and the Tablet would be what they are without Apple's products? I think not. Samsung is a great manufacturer but they don't drive innovation the way Apple does, they just go along for the ride. I wish someone would come to market with a truly innovative product that leap frogs Apple's technology, because that is when we will see true competition. Right now it is just Apple vs. copycats that add their own incremental improvements.
     
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    You, sir, are dilusional. Apple innovating? I'm laughing out loud. Biggest copycats EVER... :)
     
  6. hamish11

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    What did we have before the ipod? I'm not saying they invent everything but they do innovate, was there a consumer GUI for computers before the Mac, no. Even though they lost the PC wars to Microsoft, they forced MS away from DOS and into Windows. I don't like them patenting crap for obvious things like gestures (although the impact of gestures has been pretty big, http://www.forbes.com/sites/gyro/2012/05/14/apples-biggest-innovation-the-swipe/ ), but lets give credit where credit is due.

    I don't know how old you are so I don't know whether you can appreciate the level of change brought about by Apple, but I'm a geezer who used to work with IBM's MVS system and had to code JCL, so yeah, thanks Apple for completely changing the user experience.

    And as I said above, I would like nothing better than for some small company to come out with something that blows anything Apple has away.
     
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    True :) Perhaps I was exaggerating a bit... What's your take on the WP8 then? Is it enough to blow Apple away? :/

    Not to stray away too far from the original subject, it seems to me that Apple is facing true competition for the first time. Now that they can't come up with anything new and amazing, they are trying to kill the competition through courts...

    This is not an Apple thing, but still interesting: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/30/motorola-itc-case-vs-microsoft-remanded/
     
  8. hamish11

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    As to WP8, no, it is another incremental improvement. Give me something that combines a smarter Siri, Google's Glass, and build the processing power into my clothes, so I can have enhanced reality whenever I want, that would be an order of magnitude change.

    Unfortunately, I think Apple and others are doing what they have to do, playing the patent game, because our patent system is so truly fucked up. It's almost like you have to sue, before someone sues you. It will stay like this until we see real patent reform. Even if Apple wasn't around, you would still have the same problem.
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Apple hasn't been been inovative in years, all their doing is making minor upgrades to their products every year or year and a half. And the hardware they use is vastly under powered. The iPad 3 should have been at least a 1.5GHZ quadcore instead of a 1GHZ dualcore
     
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    Well, I guess 2 years would be considered years, but they did give birth to an entirely new industry in 2010 with the iPad. Remember, technologically speaking the hot thing of the time was the netbook. I have a feeling Siri will be a game changer, but even it is just incremental.
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Tablet pc's had already existed for several years before the iPad came out,and it was using a modified iPhone OS.
     
  12. hamish11

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    I make a distinction between tablets, and tablet pc's which ran traditional OS's. So, exactly what happened to those tablet pc's? Why did they not take off? Apple wasn't suing the makers of tablet PC's like Lenovo and others, so what caused them not to become a big hit? It was the user experience, ease of use, and the availability of good cheap apps. The market decided which was better.
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    They are used in professional settings, the price is about $2,000 for a good one with specs way above the ipad 3. Wheras as the tablets are more of a kids toy,and cheaper.
     
  14. hamish11

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    I know the nature and the difference between tablet PC'S and tablets. Tablet PC's failed to take off as a consumer product or even a mainstream professional product, they are used mostly in vertical niches. Tablets like the iPad on the other hand did take off in both the consumer and professional markets. Toys? Hardly, ask any professional photographer or Doctor who uses them to get their job done.

    Look, bottom line, no matter how much you hate Apple, they have been a big part of building the digital infrastructure we all use today. I stand by my statement they have been innovative because they have consistently been able to bring "successful" new technologies to the masses. But they are just a corporation, subject to the whims of the public when it comes to demand for their products. I can't predict that their success will continue, but I think Siri is going to get a lot smarter and bigger in the near future. After that, who knows.
     
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    I was never a fan of Apple, I used to have an iPod Video back in the days and also an iPod Nano, but ever since I sold them I never had anything to do with Apple. They just can't seem to take any competition because they know that if they don't do something to reduce it they'll start to fade away. I've played about on an iPhone 4S and I've played about on a Galaxy S2 (which I now own) and all I can say is Samsung FTW, iPhone sucks.
     
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