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Fuck Illinois New Law...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by xboxps3wow, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. xboxps3wow

    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    Hello, For well over a decade, the Amazon Associates Program has worked with thousands of Illinois residents. Unfortunately, a new state tax law signed by Governor Quinn compels us to terminate this program for Illinois-based participants. It specifically imposes the collection of taxes from consumers on sales by online retailers - including but not limited to those referred by Illinois-based affiliates like you - even if those retailers have no physical presence in the state.
    We had opposed this new tax law because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive. It was supported by national retailing chains, most of which are based outside Illinois, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors. Similar legislation in other states has led to job and income losses, and little, if any, new tax revenue. We deeply regret that its enactment forces this action.
    As a result of the new law, contracts with all Illinois affiliates of the Amazon Associates Program will be terminated and those Illinois residents will no longer receive advertising fees for sales referred to Amazon.com, Endless.com, or SmallParts.com. Please be assured that all qualifying advertising fees earned prior to April 15, 2011 will be processed and paid in full in accordance with the regular payment schedule. Based on your account closure date of April 15, 2011, any final payments will be paid by July 1, 2011.
    You are receiving this email because our records indicate that you are a resident of Illinois. If you are not currently a permanent resident of Illinois, or if you are relocating to another state in the near future, you can manage the details of your Associates account here. And if you relocate to another state after April 15, please contact us for reinstatement into the Amazon Associates Program.
    To be clear, this development will only impact our ability to continue the Associates Program in Illinois, and will not affect the ability of Illinois residents to purchase online at www.amazon.com from Amazon?s retail business.
    We have enjoyed working with you and other Illinois-based participants in the Amazon Associates Program and, if this situation is rectified, would very much welcome the opportunity to re-open our Associates Program to Illinois residents.
    Regards,
    The Amazon Associates Team
     
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  2. pkalico

    pkalico Junior Member

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    We got hit with that in colorado last year, pissed off quite a few people
     
  3. buttulgly

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    I am not from the US so am not completely familiar with how things work, but would setting up a LLC through somewhere like Delaware solve your problem?
     
  4. xboxps3wow

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    I guess that would work, but I wasn't making enough to do through all this trouble..
    Its just that this is so stupid..nless I?m crazy, that?s a revenue decrease for the State of Illinois. Exactly how is that a fiscally responsible thing to do?
     
  5. monyluv7

    monyluv7 Registered Member

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    This really puts a damper on using some of the methods shared by WSO's. So either I re-plan my marketing strategy.....or move in with my daughter in Indiana. :confused:
     
  6. Remington

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    Or tell Amazon that you moved in with her :D
     
  7. JetLiLuvr

    JetLiLuvr Newbie

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    Exactly...it will just cause even more unemployment. I was spending my Amazon money on the local economy...doing some good. Its really a law to protect the big retail chains profits.
     
  8. flexnds

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    The greed of uncles sam knows no limits. Though, this should be fairly easy to get around as there are plenty of companies out there that will handle all of your mail for in other state and set up an LLC for you in that state. I think most of them charge like 300 or 400 bucks a year. I'll get more info on this and repost when i have it.
     
  9. flexnds

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    ok just got a text from a guy that uses this.. Just google incorp services.
     
  10. GreyWolf

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    You should write a letter explaining exactly that to you're local newspaper. If a new law intended to collect taxes results not in tax revenue, but instead causes businesses to pull out of the area then newspapers love it when people to bring that to their attention.

    You need to explain it in your letter good enough so that people without a clue about IM will understand how the new law actually harms the state without any of it's intended benefits. If you get the right reporter interested in it then newspapers can actually create problems for politicians that push for those kind of bills.

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    An even better idea to do also would be make a website devoted to the topic before writing to the paper. Then ask them to publish you're website in the article. Send the same letter to all the newspapers in your state and ask them to include a link in any online articles they publish. Do it right and you could have a website with backlinks on every newspapers website in your state. That'll get you some direct traffic from the articles as well as some really good SEO/SEP for Google.

    I guess you'll have to figure a different way to monetize it besides Amazon though. :cool2:
     
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  11. luiza

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    there is a very easy solution. set up an account at earth class mail. they will give you a physical street address in oregon for free. you register with amazon using this address. they even collect your mail for you and scan it if you want.

    h00p://www.earthclassmail.com/
     
  12. Randy569

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    Illinois did something very similar to this with the trucking companies a few years ago. They decided they could raise all kinds of new revenues by raising the registration fees and taxing schedules on commercial vehicles. They practically quadrupled the cost of registering trucks and trailers in their state.

    So, the trucking company owners did what any good business would do when faced with exorbitant taxation on a state level.

    60% of the registered trucking companies moved their operations elsewhere. The state ended up LOSING revenues from truck registrations.

    Its the same warped mentality here. They are hell-bent on the idea that raising, or creating new taxes will push more revenues into the state coffers, when exactly the opposite has proven to be true, time and again.

    Reducing tax rates, and eliminating onerous taxes and fees, puts more money into the hands of the consumers, who spend that money on other goods and services, which in turn generates revenues to the state through sales and income taxes. The more consumers spend, the more tax revenue is generated. That is basic Economics 101.

    I guess the people who dream this tax stuff up must have slept through that class...:rolleyes:
     
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  13. CyrusVirus

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    hey now, indiana isn't bad.
     
  14. Michaelh76

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    Ok so its simple - you go spend 75 bucks and creat a corporation in Texas or Florida - or even Better Oregon - Oregon has no sales tax- If you need help on Oregon hit me up I have a partner in Oregon and he can help and probably will let you use his address.

    PROBLEM SOLVED!
     
  15. Gold Mike

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    Right, to echo what's been said: If you were making good money as an Amazon associate, it shouldn't be a huge burden to lay out the cash to establish a business entity in another state.

    Fuck those taxes imposed by money hungry parasites. what state is this again? Illinois? What a surprise...
     
  16. the_demon

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    Setup a Delaware LLC or similar. Speak to a tax accountant / attorney (or both).
     
  17. warriorpoet

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    sadly the land of BO is has much bigger problems now then Amazon associates being taxed but all residents being taxed heavily in an effort to ward off default. Illinois is the proof that social liberalism is an utter failure. The vote buying all these of one party did in the salad days of economic growth has now come home to roost. My advice, and wht i would do personally is move. Let these leeches suck themselves dry
     
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  18. neodregan

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    This happened last year to north carolina as well.
     
  19. fnd80

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    this isn't just an illinois thing, it's happened in many states already.

    gotta love good ol' political lobbying. screwing over the little guy in favor of big business (in this case, brick and mortar retailers).
     
  20. lacy1978

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    Do you happen to have a list of the states that have been hit with this law? Is Indiana or Georgia on the list?