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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by txholdem, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    so i have this 1.5 year old site and found that it has PR-5 a couple months ago.
    however, my main keywords are #5 and #15 which is shit. I probably have the highest PR among all sites in the same field.

    so i thought maybe its easy to push, given the high PR. i go back to SB, "blasted" a few thousand blog comments which, according to the link checker, was not even successful. except that i see adsense impression increased to 30-50 which is still pathetic.

    next thing i know? the SERP ranking disappeared! just when i was getting ready for a 1-mil SB real blast! strangely my firefox PR plugin is still showing PR-5 more than 24 hours later. is the plugin PR not real-time? wth is going on? what should I do now? someone give me a pointer?
     
  2. subpop138

    subpop138 Junior Member

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    PR is only updated by google a few times a year. What you see with those plugins is what the PR was at the last update. I don't believe there are any realtime PR checkers. As far as the rank, firstly I hope you didn't blast the site directly, secondly, it's most likely dancing if you blasted tiers. Wait a few days and check it.
     
  3. FuryKyle

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    SEO is not set and forget now. Why the heck are you blasting your site, have you lost it?
     
  4. knall

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    Low quality links such as SB blasts should be pointed towards high quality tier 1 links. Especially after the new algo updates a direct blast is like shooting yourself in the foot. Page rank is updated periodically every few months not daily.
     
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    For a PR 5 site, that's a pretty fast deranking from a pretty small SB blast.

    I guess the Penguin really doesn't play around with comment backlinks. Or maybe you were bound to be penalized by the April 24 update even before you used SB, was that right when your site was deranked?
     
  7. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    I believe I still ranked #5 and #15 on 4/25 mid-day. I did use the SB directly on my main site.
    I was afraid to do it but was desperate. After all ranking #5 and #15 is totally meaningless (5 visitors a day) regardless of the PR.

    what should i do now?
     
  8. subpop138

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    All you can do now is wait it out man. Best case scenario it's just a google dance from all the new links and your site will be back in 1-12 days at a better rank. Worse case scenario you got hit by the new algo change and it doesn't get revised or rolled back soon.

    I've directly blasted a site in the past to the point where it wasn't in the top 1000 lol. It wasn't negative SEO on a competitor, it was my site and I was a noob. I gave up on that site and moved on to other sites. 3 weeks later after not looking at it at all it was ranking #2 for it's main keyword! Hopefully you will have the same luck.
     
  9. jiipodd

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    Umm, how many exact searches are those terms getting that you are targeting? Maybe that is the reason why you don't get a lot of visitors...
     
  10. dp40oz

    dp40oz Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well if you are ranked #5 and getting 5 visitors a day then number one wouldn't be anything too great either. Also Scrapebox blasting your money site is not the smartest thing to be doing these days.
     
  11. supermanden

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    I hope you didn't killed your own website there.
     
  12. littleg2008

    littleg2008 Senior Member

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    Ranking 1st based on 5 visitors a day at 5th = around 400-500 visitors a day.
     
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    I was going to ask the same thing cause I have a site where I'm getting an average of 25-35 uniques a day and the site is ranked #7 - and the main term only gets 2900 exacts a month. (currently working on moving it up higher though)
     
  14. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    according to the keyword tools:
    1st keyword: ""=60K []=12K
    2nd keyword: "=18K, []=10K

    I got my visitors from the 2nd keyword (i ranked #5.)
     
  15. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    hmm according to what i saw somewhere, it's 50% vs. 5%. if thats true, #1 will only get about 50 visitors?
     
  16. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    thats what baffled me too.. the numbers just dont add up...
    i had a site which i have done absolutely nothing to promote - average monthly is supposed to be 1600.
    i got 1K-2K visitors when i was #1, and still got 800 when i am #5! (well the site is for special days only, so not monthly average.)

    i really dont understand this..
     
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  17. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    btw, i loggout out to check the SERP. and even clean cache sometimes.
     
  18. Expertpeon

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    A wouldn't even blast anything below tier 2s... my new method is to blast tier 3s :)



    What's to understand? the keyword tool has always been very inaccuate.
     
  19. Maja92

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    Never... ever SB your money site. Now what can you do? Wait and work on another site.
     
  20. txholdem

    txholdem Elite Member

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    i actually found my 2nd keyword at #22. (1st keyword has an inner page showing at #174.)
    many of the links i bot over a year ago do not even exist now so i dont have any "tiers" really.
    I do have some links from some big sites (although i cannot get my 2 weebly articles indexed after a year and submitted to yahoo/bing, using every shit i read).

    should i now pay $40 (for a list) to blast 600K to the "2nd tier" big sites? or would it be just a waste of money?