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I have been looking all over for a reasonably brandable expired domain but couldn't find one and I don't want to compromise by picking a foot long domain name for the sake of juice.

So how much a factor quality expired domain plays in ranking quickly as compared to fresh domains?

Is there any way to make up for the lost juice with the fresh domains?
 

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Normally a good clean auctioned domain should rank much faster than any new domain; we could be talking 6 months difference depending on exact details.
 

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So how much a factor quality expired domain plays in ranking quickly as compared to fresh domains?

Expired domains are of two types.

The one with good number of backlinks and the one with no backlinks or spammy backlinks.

Obviously, we'd go with the one with good backlinks profile but then are two things to look after.

The one that is niche relevant and the one that is irrelevant.

Again, you should find a domain that is in your niche and also has good backlinks.

Once you find that domain, you can either build your money site on it or see the reply below.

Is there any way to make up for the lost juice with the fresh domains?

So, now you want to go with a fresh domain but still want to make use of that good expired domain you just found. In this case, you can 301 the expired domain to the fresh domain and you'll retain up 90% of it's JuicePower. Now, it's just a matter of building a few bookmarks and profile links to rank much higher than where you'd rank with just the fresh domain without the 301.
 

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Expired domains are of two types.

The one with good number of backlinks and the one with no backlinks or spammy backlinks.

Obviously, we'd go with the one with good backlinks profile but then are two things to look after.

The one that is niche relevant and the one that is irrelevant.

Again, you should find a domain that is in your niche and also has good backlinks.

Once you find that domain, you can either build your money site on it or see the reply below.



So, now you want to go with a fresh domain but still want to make use of that good expired domain you just found. In this case, you can 301 the expired domain to the fresh domain and you'll retain up 90% of it's JuicePower. Now, it's just a matter of building a few bookmarks and profile links to rank much higher than where you'd rank with just the fresh domain without the 301.
Hey thanks, I understand the basics of expired domains and I think niche relevancy is not important as far as rankings matter. And obviously im talking about clean backlinks.
No i dont want to use expired ones juice. I want to know the way to make up for the lost opportunity for not going with the expired one.
 

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Normally a good clean auctioned domain should rank much faster than any new domain; we could be talking 6 months difference depending on exact details.

Wow that's a lot of difference man I mean it can potentially save you a lot of cost too.
 

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Wow that's a lot of difference man
of course; most people believe there is some sort of sandbox, where a new site will take forever to rank; this makes sense, why would google trust a new site coming out of nowhere; so as usual opinions vary, but expect to have a much slower start with a new site versus auction site.
 
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Yea I know about sandbox but a six months difference is still huge.

Do you think niche relevance plays some role?
 

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Yea I know about sandbox but a six months difference is still huge.
6 month is just to give you an idea; a new site could in fact lag an auction domain, for years, or forever; if you put some SEO effort into both domains, then the auction domain could dominate for a long time; as you should not put zero SEO into the auction domain, as you need some relevancy and relevant links (anchor).
Do you think niche relevance plays some role?
of course it does, but here again opinions differ; I would say try to be as niche relevant as you can, but don't be maniac about it.
 

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6 month is just to give you an idea; a new site could in fact lag an auction domain, for years, or forever; if you put some SEO effort into both domains, then the auction domain could dominate for a long time; as you should not put zero SEO into the auction domain, as you need some relevancy and relevant links (anchor).

of course it does, but here again opinions differ; I would say try to be as niche relevant as you can, but don't be maniac about it.

Ok that clears the air for me.
 

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You could try find a niche related auction domain even if it has no backlinks.

I picked up an EMD auction domain (0 links), back in 2015 when I didn't know a thing about SEO. Threw some duplicate content from the affiliate program on it and it was always hovering around the third page of Google for the main KW (medium comp with $18+ CPC).

About 2 months ago I decided to wipe all the content and do it right. I've only added 1000 words of content to the home page, 1 inner article and a couple pbn's.
The homepage is #4 for the main KW and the inner article (0 links) is jumping between #6 - #11 for its main KW.

Yes, it being an EMD plays a part but I think the age is making a massive difference (10 year old domain)
 

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You could try find a niche related auction domain even if it has no backlinks.

I picked up an EMD auction domain (0 links), back in 2015 when I didn't know a thing about SEO. Threw some duplicate content from the affiliate program on it and it was always hovering around the third page of Google for the main KW (medium comp with $18+ CPC).

About 2 months ago I decided to wipe all the content and do it right. I've only added 1000 words of content to the home page, 1 inner article and a couple pbn's.
The homepage is #4 for the main KW and the inner article (0 links) is jumping between #6 - #11 for its main KW.

Yes, it being an EMD plays a part but I think the age is making a massive difference (10 year old domain)
Powerfull stuff, the thing about auctions I can't know for sure that the domain is clean etc...
 

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Depend on metrics of the expired domain.

You should run some audit and compare it against your competitors, as always you are running against competitors and not simply a metrics!
 

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Powerfull stuff, the thing about auctions I can't know for sure that the domain is clean etc...

For auction domains, first check to see if it's indexed in Google.
Then check anchor text profile and all the usual pbn checks.
 
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