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Frank kern - what do you guys think of him?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Jaykub, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. Jaykub

    Jaykub Power Member

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    Hey dudes,
    i know there have been some threads about him but they weren't that informative in my opinion. i wanted to know what you guys really think of him (as many opinions as possible)..i have been stumbling upon him and watching a few of his videos on youtube, motivating and good stuff if u ask me

    but on the other hand i have a slight feeling of "scammer" whenever i gotta deal with some of the so called IM gurus....so i dont really know...whats your opinion?
     
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    He sells the "big idea" for big bucks and makes himself addictive. A little trick he learned from Tony Robbins and the nlp stuff. Just another hustler. Plenty of bhw guys better than him but not creating cult of personality.
     
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    personal opinion of frank kern ^
     
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  4. Jaykub

    Jaykub Power Member

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    sounds great cna u tell me more about your views? what do you mean by he sells the "big idea", what exactly u mean with big idea? i think he actually does come up with new ideas how would he sell it otherwise?

    can u reverse engineer what u mean by "learned fomr tony robbins?" maybe guys like me can learn from it as well! and the "creating clut of personality" is also interesting for me as a student of psychology ;)
     
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    What's cna? The best bhw answer to all those questions is contained in one of the best posts on bhw but I don't remember the name of it right now. Maybe someone else does. It was by WizGizmo and it contains copywriting, mass persuasion and manipulation material. About 3 years worth in one super thread.

    Tony Robbins was one of President Bill Clinton's greatest teachers. That might not mean much actually come to think about it. :p nlp is a type of hypnosis that doesn't involve sleep. You can use it in writing and normal conversation. Cult of Personality is when a person attaches a larger than life legendary personality to a product as part of it's perceived "value" while black hatters know that its just hustlin all the same.
     
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    The saltydroid website "exposes" people like Frank Kern. You can get the (anti-kern biased) gossip on him there. It has some interesting stuff about how these IM gurus supposedly make side cash selling their email lists and using telesales "boiler rooms" to hard sell prospects. The way he's got together with all those other gurus and they've agreed to cross promote each other's products as a syndicate so that everyone thinks they're awesome is clever IMO, although that is one of the main beefs these anti-kern people have with him.

    His products may be overpriced but I'd be surprised if people on this forum were paying for them anyway. He has some information that can really help but I've learned way more from BHW posts. Despite that, Mass Control 2 gave me a new business idea (being exposed to new stuff can get your creative juices flowing) and, when I was studying copywriting, looking at his/his cronies' copy helped.

    His stuff is definitely worth a free download. Definitely not worth what he charges.
     
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    Frank Kern is professional but shady. Product prices are overpriced and low in quality. He rehashes the classic methods and claims to be unique and invented by him. He mostly depends on his list. So as a mentor he is no good.
     
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    He's a total douche!

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  9. Jaykub

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    This sounds extremely interesting. Where can i find that thread of gizmo?????

     
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    Looks like Simon Cowell after finding all those talents. Lol.

    On topic. Frank Kern is a smooth operator, Dog training and Parot talking niche dominator, as we've been told.