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found a quality dropped domain in my niche - should I do 301 or re-establish a page?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mtj85, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. mtj85

    mtj85 Regular Member

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    Hi all.
    My question is in the title already. But let me extend it.
    I've found a quality site, related to mine, with high quality related backlinks, freshly dropped, never before used as part of PBN (or any other manipulation).

    My question is this:
    Should I buy the domain, buy a cheap hosting (or a free one for that matter) and put there a htaccess file which will do a 301 redirect to my site?
    Or
    Should I recreate a domain, put content on it and then link to my site?

    Which is better?
    The first option is much easier, but I do not get an anchored backlink. But do I get all the backlinks from that domain (the sites that linked to it now basically link to me)? In that case I get like 100 backlinks total which is great. But you can probably only make 1 or 2 sites to redirect 301 to my site, otherwise it might look suspicious...

    In second option I have the option to link to my site (article) using an anchored link. But I only get 1 link (or 2 or 3 ... but every subsequential link carries less power so basically 1 link is best).


    What do you think?
    What do you usually do in such case?
    Thanks.
     
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  2. metallosphere

    metallosphere Newbie

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    The first option would be better and you dont need hosting, you can redirect straight from registrar.
     
  3. blackice6666

    blackice6666 Regular Member

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    Why dont you build a ne page on that domain and also drop a link to your site. One link will not make you loose a lot of linkjuice and also you will have a nice relevant backlink. Meanwhile if the new site ranks well you can monetize it :)
     
  4. mtj85

    mtj85 Regular Member

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    Agreed, but I can only redirect one or two domains to my domain name, otherwise it would look suspicious, won't it?
     
  5. SteveWaller

    SteveWaller Regular Member

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    In my experience I have always found building a site on the domain works better than 301ing - you say it is related but that the links would not be anchored - why? Are they all brand/URL links? Or is this domain now 100% related but only slightly related to your money site?
     
  6. mtj85

    mtj85 Regular Member

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    No - I mean if I 301 redirect site to my site I cannot use an anchor text to link to my site as I don't have the control of the links. But would the backlinks of that domain still redirect to my site with existing anchor?

    Example:
    that site has 3 backlinks.
    naked url link from site1
    brand name link from site2
    keyword link from site3

    Now I do a redirect to my site. I get 3 links from 3 domains, right?
    But do I get those 3 links exactly like they were? Or is 301 redirect interfering with anchor text in some way so I only get 3 "naked" links?

    I hope you get what I mean :)
     
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  7. SteveWaller

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    You get those 3 links with the anchor text they originally had. So, if some are naked or brand links then, in my opinion, a 301 will only serve to confused Google in the long run as to what your site is about. If they are keyword anchors then it's less of an issue.

    My personal choice would be to build a site on the domain and choose your own backlink. You might think that you are only getting 1 link instead of XX links, but if you think of the link juice as a flow of water running through pipes with each anchor text being a different colour of water, then rather than having loads of small pipes each delivering some water to your site where it mixes together to form a multi-coloured soup, you will have one large mains pipe delivering the same amount of water (ok maybe slightly less) but with just one colour which matches the colour that you want your site to be.

    I hope you also get what I mean ;)
     
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  8. mtj85

    mtj85 Regular Member

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    Yep, I get what you mean and you answered my question. Thank you.

    The thing with building new sites is that it takes time and a lot of work (I do SEO myself). At some point I'll have to outsource this I guess...
     
  9. accelerator_dd

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    If the site is closely related to your site, i guess you can redirect it, and mention that you have rebranded on your new site. However, building out the site looks a lot more natural in case someone is reviewing your link portfolio.
     
  10. mtj85

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    Ok so here's the deal.

    I've found another website that is related to mine and registered it. Site was shutdown just a few months ago and was idle for few months. Luckily no one abused it yet (checked it with wayback machine). So it's clean. This is the first drop. Site is 6 years old.

    But here comes the best part.

    Site has 2000 backlinks, all natural and all related. Links come from high quality sites as this site was also HQ (run by government).
    SO I just won a jackpot.

    What to do with it? Redirect it to my site and gain 2000 top quality, diverse backlinks (site is in my niche) or rebuild it and try to rank it?