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Found a niche, what do I do?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by atif089, May 11, 2011.

  1. atif089

    atif089 Registered Member

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    Found a niche with these specs

    Global Monthly Searches - 90,500
    Local Monthly Searches - 74,000

    Competition - About 1,740,000 results

    Exact match domains (not available) but not in SERPS (parked domains)

    Hyphenated Domains are Available.

    Stats for top 10 search results

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    Should I proceed with this?
     
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    With "local searches"... best to divide that number by at least 3 and more likely by up to 6.

    74,000 is more like 12,000 searches per month. Having the #1 spot doesn't mean you will get all of those. Some people say 50%, maybe 60%. So "maybe" 7,200 visitors a month. Which isn't bad.... it all then depends on what your ROI is.

    If your doing adsense and get 3% CTR you might get 216 clicks. If your earning $0.45, that's a nice $97/mo. If you make 1% CTR on $0.15 that's only 72 clicks per month and only bringing in $11/mo. It all depends on how much traffic you think you can realistically bring in and what your CTR will be. Either adsense, CPA.. whatever.

    I have a site that Google "says" there is 120,000 local searches. My site is #1 AND #3 and it does less than 8,000 visitors a month. Luckily I have a high CTR and good money per click. So it varies....
     
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  3. atif089

    atif089 Registered Member

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    Thanks a lot for the tips. (Newbie here, and this is my first personal project)

    At this point, the most concerned part for me is not earnings, its rather rankings. Considering the search results right now, would I be able to create a micro niche website outrank those other websites if I buy a hyphenated domain with those keywords?

    Coming back to monetizing it, I would be using adsense and was also considering Google affiliate network as I have signed up an advertiser on that who gives around 25% per sale.

    Apparently Im not going to invest anything on the website (excluding domain), as I am going to do everything from bookmarking to blog commenting and article submissions myself.


    Considering the above situation, is this a good niche to choose, I don't want to waste time on it if its unachievable or would take a long time.

    Thanks :)
     
  4. Sundace60

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    Before you invest any money trying to get this domain going, do yourself a favor and look for the competition. I realize that you said the domain was not taken, BUT how many websites are using that keyword or keyphrase.

    You don't need software to check it, just use big G's keyword tool and look at the competition graph, then do an exact search, that's the one where you use the "[" and "]" symbol (without the quotes) around your keyword or keyphrase and see how many results you will find.

    It will look like this:

    About 2,740,000,000 results (0.31 seconds)
     
  5. londes

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    Not just what these guys have said, but make sure you check out the approximate CPC for the keywords you try to monetize with, assuming Adsense is something you want to look into.

    We'd really need to see the entire top 10 website stats to see if you can rank for the keywords, but from what you listed it seems reasonable to me to achieve results.

    Remember there are a fair number of relatively high volume traffic keywords like this one perhaps, that people like us have no interest in. Make sure it's worth something.
     
  6. macdonjo3

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    Alexa rank doesn't matter, why are you telling this.

    More valued: Is it in the title, desc, meta tags, or URL? How about is it domains or URLs ranked 2nd and 3rd?
     
  7. atif089

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    Exact Match - 33,100 Global and 27,100 Local
    Exact Keyphrase Search - About 3,640,000 results (0.08 seconds)
    Exact Intitle - About 214,000 results (0.06 seconds)
    Exact Inurl - About 156,000 results (0.03 seconds)
    Exact Intitle & Inurl - About 125,000 results (0.11 seconds)





    These are the stats of top 10

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  8. Sundace60

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    Ok, now go to big G and type in your keyphrase (broad match this time) and get the Page Rank on just the first page of big G.

    You can get an add on to the Firefox browser called "SEO Quake" that will give you the PR and lots more info about each listing on page 1 of "G".

    Note each PR rank for all organic results on first page only and then goto:

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    http://www.highqualitybacklinks.com/backlink-checker/
    This is a F*R*E*E backlink checker. It will tell you how many backlinks go to the page that has your keyphrase on it. You already have the other info so now you need to look at how many of those sites on page 1 have your keyphrase in:

    1. The URL
    2. Any H1 tags
    3. In the description (first 60 characters only)
    4. Visit the page and see if they BOLD or ITALICIZE the keyphrase.

    All that remains is to rank for the number 1 spot. Now your gong to run into trouble if the site at position 1 is a PR4 or above. PR3 is doable, PR2 or below is most desirable.

    Get to work with SEO in your meta tags both keyword and description. Use your keyphrase as many times as possible on the first page of the your website. Bold some, Italicize some and underline some. Make sure you take at least 3 or 4 and make anchor tags out of them.

    Then promote to get backlinks. Look at the site that now holds spot and try and aim for the number of backlinks FOR THAT PAGE ONLY. That should get you going.

    Don't forget reciprocal links. All the search engines expect to see them and it looks natural to a bot.
     
  9. atif089

    atif089 Registered Member

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    Looks more like you wanted to steal my niche. sorry to be honest and sarcastic