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Formalize the Definition of the Word "Scam"

Discussion in 'Forum Suggestions & Feedback' started by Jonny Quick, Sep 24, 2011.

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  1. Jonny Quick

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    Too many shitlist threads, and other complaint threads, start off with the OP running around hysterically crying "scam", and that is wrong for several reasons.

    First, it's manipulative, and indicates the OP's intent to persuade people of someone's bad character and actions without actually giving any information that might demonstrate it. Second it's manipulative in that it attempts to make everyone else care about 2 people's problem, when in fact, when the details of the situation are (finally) made known, we don't care at all. We care about a scam, because a scammer might scam us, but if two dipshits screw up a business transaction because both of them are dipshits, then that's their problem and we are in no danger.

    A "scam", in my opinion, is a delibarate action with a direct intent to cheat or defraud. It doesn't necessarily have to start off that way, with one person planning to cheat another, but the sooner it starts, the more of a scam it is. If a pile of money happens to fall into one partner's lap, and he goes off on a Friday night and spends it on crack whores and bubblegum, that's not a "scam", that's someone impulsively deciding to steal something.

    Too many non-scams get called scams, and that waters-down the definition of the word. "The Community" cares about scams because it cares about protecting itself, and because of this it should also protect the definition of this word, and limit it's use to only those situations where it accurately describes them. In fact, I think that if an OP uses this word, and it is clear that the word is not accuate, OP's should be forced to take-back that word and admit it was inaccurate as part of the disciplinary/educational process. Also serves as an object lesson to anyone else that wants to use this word in an effort to artificially create support for their cause.
     
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    Jonny Quick scammed me out of the time it took to read this thread.

    Who gives a fuck about semantics. Someone is either trustworthy or they're not.
     
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    I'll give you a full refund.

    Intelligent people give a fuck about semantics, otherwise retards that parrot words that they do not understand gain the opportunity to assume power over their intellectual superiors, They have the illusion of intelligence and none of the substance, and once they acquire power, it's too late to do anything. The retard is in charge, and will punish you for exposing his retarded identity.

    This is very common, and the people so afflicted are by definition unaware of their condition. It becomes known when intelligent people insist on the correct use of the language. This annoys the retarded greatly, as their retarded nature becomes exposed for all to see, and provides opportunity to limit their ability to gain power. Sometimes they are even provoked into protest, which is the literary equivalent of waving around a red flag in a crowd with the words "I'm not retardud, and you kan't find me."
     
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    Yes, but what about formalizing definition of the word scam, and any of the other points I made?
     
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    I suggest looking through some dictionaries?

    Samples: Fraudulent deal; To defraud or embezzle; A dishonest scheme; a fraud; deprive of by deceit; A transaction where money changes hands but the goods or services agreed upon are not fully rendered; A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, swindle or bamboozle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence.

    Also, it doesn't have to be deliberate. I understand you have an opinion but let's take a look at negligence.

    failure to act with the prudence that a reasonable person would exercise under the same circumstances; Failure to use reasonable care, resulting in damage or injury to another; the trait of neglecting responsibilities and lacking concern; failure to act in accordance with the standard of care that society expects of its members.

    I don't really see the need to define it any further than that. It's a case by case basis, honestly the majority of complaints usually are more about negligence than outright deceit. Either way, I don't care about the terminology used when posting complaints in the shitlist section. Both sides get a fair and equal chance to present their sides, if it's invalid it's removed.
     
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