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Foreigners, How Much you make from non english Warez/Porn sites?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by omagad, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. omagad

    omagad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I know there are various methods but I too have a way to clean junk traffic. Please don't PM me about this, I will release something (maybe a JV) at the end of this survey.

    So if you want to help me and others, post:

    - what kind of site you have (not niche, just if it's porn or warez);

    - how many UV you get;

    - how much cash are making you;

    - what language / country you target (I need this to estimate CPC and potential earnings and compare it with what you make now).

    Thank you!
     
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    why don't you tell us first?
     
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  3. omagad

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    I have only adsense compliant sites, that's why I'm asking. If I was involved in those verticals I could generate stats on my own.
     
  4. omagad

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    Well, I guess all you guys have only white hat, adsense or CPA sites... I thought something would come out from this thread, except somebody neg repping me for the title, although I wrote a title to attract non US eyes to the topic. I too am not an US resident. I've just used it because topic titles have character limit and I couldn't fit "people who are not living in North America and have other native language". Also, by definition "foreigner" means:

    "a person from a foreign country; alien", source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Foreigner

    Let's put it simpler, I need this data to compare your revenue with adsense earnings from same site, if you could make more from adsense then I might come up with some sort of JV, that's all, I don't want to steal niches/websites/etc. You are not requested to out your site...
     
  5. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Adsense isn't allowed on warez and porn sites, the only ways to monetize it is with image hosts and file hosts that have an affiliate program.
     
  6. ChapoGuzman

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    he said he has a way to clean the traffic, so...... pretty sure he is not going to directly add the code to the warez site without doing his magic.


    but I doubt there is high demand for non English warez site, I mean the countries who do not speak english usually are not that high paying countries so Doubt someone who is in it for the money 99% of the people will want to waste their time manage a warez site with only the fraction of the potential its English version counterpart could do.
     
  7. omagad

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    That's what I'm saying here ^_^ IF you have a porn / warez site, how much you make with it?

    I want to compare this with potential adsense earnings...

    So it's like this, your warez site makes $x with 1k visits and your average CTR from adsense in your country COULD make $y with the same 1k visits.
    If $y > $x then it might be worth it to convert your traffic in order to use it with adsense. Me and my twisted questions no one gets...

    Trust me, or better yet use google translate and search specific google tld for porn/hacks/cracks or whatever you want in any language... You will find results, yes? So, in fact, there are people managing those sites, right?
     
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  8. ChapoGuzman

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    no need to be hostile lol.

    Of course their is gonna be someone serving some niche thats the name of the game but what you are asking is a extremely targeted niche and just to ask and expect that those who are serving that niche are on this forum is a huge assumption. Yes this forum is huge but is not the home for all website owners. You better off going and asking this on forums sites which those site owner will frequent. Forums in their language etc etc. better yet email those said yet directly and give him some sales pitch etc to get the info you looking for, just saying if you really want to know this info.
     
  9. omagad

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    I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to sound that way. I guess you're right, I made a false assumption, also not my first...
     
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    The best thing to do in my opinion would to have the nameofsite.(insert tld here) and have it in english and have (insert country code here).nameofsite.(insert tld here) with what every language that country is using that your targeting as well.

    Since I have accounts at like 10 image hosts I can make up to around $48 per 1,000 uv from u.s. traffic not counting sales from file hosts and money from downloads from the other file hosts I have. But a country that is always in the all other country rankings would only earn me $1 per 1,000 uv from there.

    imho its a total waste of time to only target a low earning country especially if they have a low population.
     
  11. omagad

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    For you, because you are an English speaker and an US citizen (?!). But for everyone else in the world is easier to rank ant maintain a site in their native language. I mean, I'm involved, directly or indirectly, in projects from my country hitting hundreds of thousands of local visitors DAILY or having 500k-milion local fans. Do you think there is some money even here, even though we are a 3rd tier country?
     
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    You don't have to be an expert in english to make an english site, yours is good enough to get ranked and keep people reading. No one cares about grammar and wont even notice grammar mistakes.

    If you use file hosts to monetize traffic and ones that have Pay Per Sale, then yes you can monetize it well if your content "forces" them to want to pay for it.
     
  13. omagad

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    OK, it seems you are missing the point. I was just asking if there are people on this forum who have under monetized non English sites so we can see if we can do a better job somehow...
     
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    I had a few sites which were adult related i used plugrush, popads, clicksor, and ppn ppn is gone now so not making as much and my new ppi company doesnt allow adult but i was making pretty good money

    cpm from plugrush was about 4/5$
    cpm clicksor 2/3$
    popads "most people use popup blockers so this was much lower but for every 1000 uniques shown by popads about 3$

    and then the ppi was my biggest earner only works with videos that cant be really be found online i was getting 10% conversion at 1.25 for US installs UK about 1$ and lowers to about 10 cents for low value areas.

    Most days when i got 20k unique i was making over 100$ easy
     
  15. omagad

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    Great numbers, but then again, you had tier 1 visitors (US, UK).
     
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    This is some of the stats from last year should give you an idea

    figures.jpg

    Sites dead now got closed for malware but made a killing
     
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    Was it clicksor that got it closed for malware? They freaking suck, I got one of my sites banned on reddit because of the malware that was on clicksor
     
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    Yea it was clicksor after 200k / 500k unique its normally a ban think Ive had a about 4 or 5 sites banned by using them now i still use them but only for sites that dont get search traffic
     
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    It depends on what country you target... if you target t3 countries and use some of real sponsors or try to sell clicks or ad spaces earnings will be funny...

    But if you target some country and setup your "paysite" with some pay processor that accept t3 countries ( in most cases SMS billing on weekly basis ) and make local porn site network to promote your "paysite" you can earn very good money.

    Few months ago i setup copy of brazzer main site for some Nigerian guys. ( thay fill server with full vidoes, prob they buy membership and leach videos from brazzer ).
    After that they setup member area and SMS billing. And promote "paysite" on their local porn network... And this concept work really GOOD.
    But you can get in jail :)
     
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  20. Roparadise

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    But they don't have to worry about jail time like people in the U.S. or other t1 countries.