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For noobs: What I learned from guest posting on 15 DA50-90 sites worth $2500

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by macdonjo3, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. macdonjo3

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    I've been trying to rank an old site of mine. Started it in 2010, and I've let the ranking slip.

    So I decided to do some outreach and guest post on a bunch of DA50-90 sites. These are highly moderated blogs and online magazines. Not your typical guest posting sites. I've built quite the impressive list over the past couple months. If you were to buy these, it would have costed probably $2000-3000 in posts. I rode off my own name, experience and some guest posting tactics that have worked well for me.

    I didn't really experience that much movement. I didn't start seeing movement until I stopped worrying about DA and just got the most unique IP domains I could get.

    When it came to high quality guest post backlinks, it added trust flow but didn't effect rankings.
    When it came to referring domains, regardless of their metrics but rather just their overall quality, it helped the rankings.
    When it came to a private blog network with very low OBL, it started the movement. The PBN was my own, as I don't believe in renting links. For domains, I searched through my list of 12k expired domains to find some good .ca domains. With 10 huff post links on some of them, it really added the authority I needed.

    Anyways, back to guest posting...
    I now believe that a DA25 site that has almost no history of guest posts on its blog is more valuable in the SERPs than a DA60 site that has a history of accepting high quality guest contributors. Although every site needs a bunch of DA60+ links if it doesn't have them already, but there becomes a point where adding more just won't add any effect to your SERPs.

    Low OBL, low amount of previous guest posters and very targeted is what has worked before me. By targeted, I don't mean just your niche, but I mean your country. I'm trying to rank on Google.ca so I've been putting high weight on .ca sites.

    Sometimes it's as simple as searching this on Google: inurl:blog "contact us" your-niche site:.ca
    That will find blogs in your niche and country, with a contact form.

    If Google knows that the site accepts guest posts and reverse engineers the previous guest posters on the site that are in the same shoes as you, it will hold less value, regardless of how big or authoritative the site is.

    Also, once you hit that DA60+ mark, some of them are nofollow, such as SEMRush.com. Sure, it will keep the ratio natural but I wouldn't waste time on a SEMRush link again, even though people sell them for $300 like they're worth so much. The only nofollow links that I know hold true value are Wikipedia links.

    Anyways, I could have put this one my blog as an official case study but I'm too busy and figured it'd help a bunch of people out. I may go over my guest posting tactics later as a video. Some of this is fundamental but if you're not generating the traffic that you're worth, I'd reconsider how you're doing SEO for your site.
     
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  2. praetserge

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    Totally agree, I find a link from a small relevant website with no guest posts offering better value than benzinga for example.
     
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    Thank you for sharing your experience OP, that's def' going to help me further down the road.
     
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    The problem is most guest posting sites are absolute shit, and 90% of people don't know how to see it's shit, or don't care to make the effort to see that it's shit. The actual high quality sites that accept guest posts, the owners let very few people guest post because Google has already penalized sites. Gonna go off here and I'm not speaking to OP directly but guest posts in general.

    DA is shit if your site has been penalized by Google. I look to buy guest posts and atleast 90% of them have been penalized, you're paying $200, $300, $500 for shitty guest posts that problem give your site zero value. Sadly these links are being bought every single day and the purchase has no idea.

    Second of all, these posts on DA 60+ are worthless without any other incoming links to them (as discussed before on this forum).

    Here's a trick everyone should be doing.
    1) Check the incoming links to the potential guest posting site. 9/10 times this will have thousands of links but a mediocre DA. Why? Because these sites accept almost anyone, so people get their guest post up, then spam the shit out of the post with shitty links. Download Moz toolbar and you can see the number of links when you visit the site. Honestly once you do it for a while you can see it so easily compared to legit authority sites.

    2) Go to Semrush.com and pull the domain up. Any domain with even a decent DA is going to rank for a few keywords. Most of these sites won't rank for shit. ANd you will be able to see in the graph 1-2 years ago where the traffic took a strict decline. The site was penalized, and probably still is. Your link from this site is probably worthless.
     
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    Totally agreed people get so excited about guest posting but don't do their due diligence regarding site metrics.
     
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    The sites I tested with are not spammed DAs. Take a look at one: https://salesandmarketing.com
     
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    I know, I didn't want you to think I was speaking to you directly.
    But the articles are still PA1 and probably no one actually linking to them. I don't have a ton of links to my site, probably a quater of my competitors but I outrank them all. I have links in a few publications which in turn got a lot of links to those articles. I'm sure this had a big influence on my rankings.

    I've been debating getting a really high DA because of the success I've had with the free high DA linsk I"ve received. But you never know what you're going to get or where it will end up. If you pay say $3k for WSJ and no one finds the article interesting and it fades away, that link really isn't worth it.
     
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    Thank you for sharing this, OP.
     
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    The rule of evaluating the quality of the linking site does not apply to just guest posting, but any backlink in general.

    I remember reading somewhere that google checks the "outbound link profile" of a site to see if it has become just a dead source of backlinks or not. And then the algorithm decides accordingly.

    This is one reason why article submission directories have become less effective in giving out any seo benefit through backlinks.
     
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    The guest posts got this site into the dance and now pushing ahead:

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    Abhi could you please elaborate how you would find quality guest posting sites with the proper site metrics?
     
  12. macdonjo3

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    Honestly, look for sites that have a genuine following on social media.
     
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    From my experience I have found guest posting does help with your overall serp improvement even with DA & PA is from 30 on average sites.