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[For Dummies] What Is Duplicate Content? Duplicate Content Is NOT Just An On-Site Thing...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SEOSupport, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. SEOSupport

    SEOSupport BANNED BANNED

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    I've had a few discussions with several people, here on the forum -- Not just a discussion, but others posting in my threads, saying that what I'm saying is WRONG pertaining to Duplicate Content.

    Argument: Duplicate content can be defined as many things. One definition of duplicate content --- is ANYTIME that someone reposts your website content, somewhere else on the web, either on a forum or on a social media platform.

    I found the time to help those of you who've puffed your big o'l chest up against me and here is a Google search for what is duplicate content, second result http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/remove-duplicate-content-from-your-web-site-for-be.html This link is from a highly reputable site...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+fix+duplicate+content&rlz=1C1ARAB_enUS471US471&aq=f&oq=how+to+fix+duplicate+content&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.9940j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&rlz=1C1ARAB_enUS471US471&sclient=psy-ab&q=what+is+duplicate+content&oq=what+is+duplicate+content&gs_l=serp.3..0i20j0j0i20j0i22i30l7.890312.895204.1.895760.25.20.0.1.1.3.1417.4363.7j5j5-1j0j2.15.0...0.0...1c.1.11.serp.Rdbwb9X8pB4&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45645796,d.dmQ&fp=6f7c90a3f96d81ca&biw=1600&bih=799

    Duplicate content is defined in 2 ways, on site and off site.. Sound familiar? :)

    If you have something that can prove me wrong, please do. I learn new things everyday of my life and en joy doing so!

    Hope This Helps,
    Gregory Smith
     
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  2. danailo

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    I have a question OP.

    Have there been cases where people have been able to isolate dupe content as the sole purpose of their penalty?

    If not, how can we assure that dupe content is in fact something that gets penalized and not just something google throws down at us in order to keep people from creating multiple MNS with the same content?
     
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    In a clip, Matt Cuts said that google can see where content 1st appeared by analyzing some key factors like the rel=author and the 1st time the content was ever indexed by google. It's not 100% that your content will be indexed before someone copies it, but it`s very unlikely that someone will copy your content without finding it on google. Just my two cetns.
     
  5. SEOSupport

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    Oh sure. There's been many webmasters to become penalized, who've knew nothing about seo or link building or anything. I recently reviewed a client's site, where his site was just 3 days old - he didn't understand what had happened, and when I started the audit, he had 3 site's with the same content, page for page.

    The guys site was 3 days old. I didn't even charge him for my services, I simply showed him what had happened, and tried helping him. I've seen these thins happen many times. I've seen it happen to newer site's more-so than I've seen it happen to older site's. but that's just from what I've seen.
     
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    I've thought a lot about this and I agree to some extent. Could you rephrase your entire concept? Would like to see what you're saying more clearly!


    thanks
     
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    Too Many people think that duplicate content is on site specific and this really needs to be cleared up. . .
     
  8. crazedspyker

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    As far as I know duplicate content doesn't get penalized like most people think. Everyone should experiment for themselves and see. I have sites that rank from almost purely syndicating the content that I've already posted on my site, exactly as is.

    This IS duplicate content, but there is no penalty because I link back to the original and I don't syndicate a post until it's indexed. I started it out as a test, but this site is ranking very well for about a year now. When I submit unique articles to tier 1, I also use each unique article multiple times (which makes it duplicate of each other). I have yet to get any kind of penalty. In fact, this site doesn't even experience google dance.

    It's more stable and ranks better than my other sites (yes, even my 100% never posted anywhere else content sites. Although it could just be this particular niche or perhaps syndication is a positive signal of authority when done properly.. who knows) which surprised me because I've always been told how bad and evil duplicate content is. I'm glad I started experimenting things on my own because 50% or more of the info being spread on forums is so wrong and pure regurgitation without testing. Someone reads something, keeps it in their mind, then when another thread mentions it, they chime in and spit it out as if it was a fact. (nothing here is aimed at OP or anyone else. I'm just mentioning my experience)

    If everyone started doing their own tests, they will see just how much misinformation is being spread... even here on bhw. Keep in mind that just because this works for me, doesn't mean it will work for everyone. Penalties are often triggered by combinations of factors, not just a single variable. The reason it could be working so great for me is because I syndicate the content and try to emulate the natural process. Another person can syndicate the content and do it in a spammy way causing the engines to send off a flag.
     
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  9. sn0rt

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    Exactly why I asked the question above.
     
  10. ArtVandelay

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    Thanks for this thread. Some good info has been shared already. I'd like to chime in a little bit here.

    I've been looking into local SEO quite a bit. I'm no expert, but my understanding of SEO in general is:

    Moneysite content: absolutely unique
    Tier 1: unique
    Tier 2: spun versions of tier 1 will suffice.
    Tier 3: essentially spam

    Any critique of that is more than welcomed. Just throwing my idea of things out there.

    How about in local citations? Should each citation have a unique description? Will spun content be ok? Et cetera et cetera...
     
  11. SEOSupport

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    I agree with you 100% -- though that isn't to say that you won't be bitten by an upcoming Mike Tyson :)

    thanks
     
  12. SEOSupport

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    Your questions are welcome here! Thanks for posting.

    Please don't start using spun content in local citations lol as fae as Local SEO Goes, I work as a professional consultant in that field, and would really hate to see it become spammed. So far, the Local market has been sweet, without much competition at all. For those who want to make a fack profit, that's where it's at..

    Using duplicate content says a lot about who you are, when the content is evenTually found by someone you would like respect from, either it be a consumer or whoever. I recently spent the past 4 days creating a new piece of content/page to my blog, and when I was done, sure it took me forever, but to sit and look back at what I achieved -- I'm proud to know that this is what represents myself and what I do.

    As an SEO, I'm not saying that article spinning doesn't have it's purpose in our market -- what I'm saying is that there's a time and place for it!

    btw: is it just me, or is everyone elses google analytics traffic soaring?

    Have a good day
     
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