[FOLLOW ALONG] Reaching $1,000 Profit Days And Beyond With Paid Traffic

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May I ask what are you testing? Type of creative on banners or something else? What prevents you from scaling faster?
I’ve dialed this campaign in over the last couple of weeks. Started with 5 banners and 2 different offer pages for JerkMate targeting Pornhub Mobile Header in the USA.

Then I got enough data to find out which banner/offer combinations we’re doing the best. Then I drilled down further to have a look at the operating system data and found that Android was winning.

So now just running the best combinations.

The banner in question is somewhat high CTR, I won’t reveal it here but to get higher CTR you need to test different things and outside the box thinking. Like cartoon style images or silhouette type images stand out a little bit more amongst all the nudity you find on tube sites.

I created this follow along as a beginner should and would. Being capped on the offer at 100 leads a day to asses the lead quality. And then slowly ramp things up from there.

Because I am now targeting just one OS, I’m reaching the limits of the volume I can get in this particular spot. But keep in mind this is just ONE campaign, on ONE banner placement, on ONE site and ONE Geo. Tons more scaling opportunity if I were to “port” this over to other spots and geos.
 

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I’ve dialed this campaign in over the last couple of weeks. Started with 5 banners and 2 different offer pages for JerkMate targeting Pornhub Mobile Header in the USA.

Then I got enough data to find out which banner/offer combinations we’re doing the best. Then I drilled down further to have a look at the operating system data and found that Android was winning.

So now just running the best combinations.

The banner in question is somewhat high CTR, I won’t reveal it here but to get higher CTR you need to test different things and outside the box thinking. Like cartoon style images or silhouette type images stand out a little bit more amongst all the nudity you find on tube sites.

I created this follow along as a beginner should and would. Being capped on the offer at 100 leads a day to asses the lead quality. And then slowly ramp things up from there.

Because I am now targeting just one OS, I’m reaching the limits of the volume I can get in this particular spot. But keep in mind this is just ONE campaign, on ONE banner placement, on ONE site and ONE Geo. Tons more scaling opportunity if I were to “port” this over to other spots and geos.

Hey great post you obviously know what you’re doing.

I just have 1 question. What networks do you run on? I’ve been in the nutra and gadget space for a while on Aff, Dfo, delux, ect. But I’ve never ran adult myself so I would be interested to know what networks you run on
 

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Day 16 Updates

Lucky its still in profit... but as you can see its starting to burn out a little with the ROI continuing to drop more.

Will either make some tweaks to the targeting options further, or split test some new banners.

Spend: $2,922.48
Revenue: $3,468.50
Profit: $546.02


Total Spend So Far: $20,427.29
Total Revenue So Far: $25,406.50
Total Profit So Far: $4,969.85

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Ok so I made some tweaks to my targeting, basically I drilled down further into the available targeting on TJ and went ultra targeted.

Pausing all the bad traffic and only running the most profitable traffic.

We are now entering a space that I'm not willing to share publicly as its getting too targeted and I'll end up with direct competitors :p

But its the kind of targeting that I teach in my course, if anyone is wondering.

Spend: $3,109.45
Revenue: $3,983.00
Profit: $873.55


Total Spend So Far: $23,536.74
Total Revenue So Far: $29,389.5
Total Profit So Far: $5,843.40


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Dropping ROI a little, plus its thanksgiving holiday and black Friday tomorrow, so will see how things pan out.

Results for today:

Spend: $2,964.56
Revenue: $3,755.50
Profit: $790.94


Total Spend So Far: $26,501.30
Total Revenue So Far: $33,145.00
Total Profit So Far: $6,634.34

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Dropping ROI still and volume even.... its holidays, everyone out black friday shopping :D

Results for today:

Spend: $2,729.47
Revenue: $3,388.00
Profit: $658.53


Total Spend So Far: $29,230.77
Total Revenue So Far: $36,533.00
Total Profit So Far: $7,292.87


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ROI is dropping, starting to die out I think.. But still profitable!

Results for today:

Spend: $2,890.25
Revenue: $3,458.00
Profit: $567.75


Total Spend So Far: $32,121.02
Total Revenue So Far: $39,991.00
Total Profit So Far: $7,860.62


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Ok so I made some tweaks to my targeting, basically I drilled down further into the available targeting on TJ and went ultra targeted.

Pausing all the bad traffic and only running the most profitable traffic.

We are now entering a space that I'm not willing to share publicly as its getting too targeted and I'll end up with direct competitors :p

But its the kind of targeting that I teach in my course, if anyone is wondering.

Spend: $3,109.45
Revenue: $3,983.00
Profit: $873.55


Total Spend So Far: $23,536.74
Total Revenue So Far: $29,389.5
Total Profit So Far: $5,843.40


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What's course link? Ever run into issues with banks or PayPal and adult income. I read this can he an issue where they close accounts if adult related. How do you handle this? Separate business banking offshore that's fine with it? THanks
 

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What's course link? Ever run into issues with banks or PayPal and adult income. I read this can he an issue where they close accounts if adult related. How do you handle this? Separate business banking offshore that's fine with it? THanks

The course link is in my banner signature, if you can't see it due to being on mobile or whatever other reason, here is a link: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/s...-offers-on-paid-adult-traffic-sources.1366876

I've never ran into any banking or PP issues. I went through a period of time where I was sending and receiving almost 6 figures a month with PayPal and had no issues.

I think the reasons are:

The affiliate CPA networks I ran with have lots of different offers on their end, Nutra, Dating, Adult Gaming ect, so they don't look specifically "adult"

I then also reinvested my funds into more advertising, so I would send out payments to Traffic Junky and other networks via PayPal with no issues

If the networks allow PayPal processing, they are doing something on their end to make it all legit, so there's no problems.

These days im just sending and receiving international Wires to my Aus bank account. (no issues again, I think its harder to see what the company sending and receiving is actually doing because they can create a separate company name just for payments. (again, the networks responsibility to sort out)

Also there are wallet accounts like Paxum who deal with Adult Payments no problem, and ccbill etc
 

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The course link is in my banner signature, if you can't see it due to being on mobile or whatever other reason, here is a link: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/s...-offers-on-paid-adult-traffic-sources.1366876

I've never ran into any banking or PP issues. I went through a period of time where I was sending and receiving almost 6 figures a month with PayPal and had no issues.

I think the reasons are:

The affiliate CPA networks I ran with have lots of different offers on their end, Nutra, Dating, Adult Gaming ect, so they don't look specifically "adult"

I then also reinvested my funds into more advertising, so I would send out payments to Traffic Junky and other networks via PayPal with no issues

If the networks allow PayPal processing, they are doing something on their end to make it all legit, so there's no problems.

These days im just sending and receiving international Wires to my Aus bank account. (no issues again, I think its harder to see what the company sending and receiving is actually doing because they can create a separate company name just for payments. (again, the networks responsibility to sort out)

Also there are wallet accounts like Paxum who deal with Adult Payments no problem, and ccbill etc

To add some more reasons I just thought of....

I'm not advertising the fact that I do anything Adult through my accounts.

The sending and receiving accounts through PP and Bank have very large trading volumes from other affiliates, this means 1) They are trusted in PP eyes and 2) PP and the banks are making a fuck load of money off the fees, and networks process like 7 figures a day.
 

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ROI is dropping HARD!

Results for today:

Spend: $2,735.48
Revenue: $3,108.00
Profit: $372.52


Total Spend So Far: $34,856.50
Total Revenue So Far: $43,099.00
Total Profit So Far: $8,233.14

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Starting to burn out I think...

Results for today:

Spend: $2,833.49
Revenue: $3,286.50
Profit: $453.01


Total Spend So Far: $37,689.99
Total Revenue So Far: $46,385.50
Total Profit So Far: $8,686.15


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what are you gonna do now OP? start a new campaign or new banners???
For this BHW thread I’ll probably let it end.

As I have other campaigns as well, so I’m ok.

But if this was my only campaign/income I’d be throwing in new banners to test. Sending 80% of the traffic to my best banner and 20% testing new banners.

Same with offer page as well.

That’s how you get it profitable again. Banner burn out, being seen millions of times per day and also being ripped and deployed by other media buyers.
 

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Hey,

So, it's been a while since I've done a good thread/follow along.

Haven't actually posted much here since 2013!

Guess I just got really busy learning about media buying and then finding success and just kept hammering out campaign after campaign.

I'm at the point now where I want to give back and provide value to BHW, was a total noob when I first joined, and learned heaps from this forum.

I got into Adult Media buying, I figured sex sells right, and there's a crap load of adult traffic out there with all these dudes watching porn every day...

I haven't seen many guides here on media buying, especially Adult Media Buying, so I figured I'd post a good detailed guide/follow along with a new campaign.

The Adult Media Buying space has changed over the years, getting a little tougher with some verticals like Dating and the pandemic.... but make no mistake, if you pay attention to the banner ads on tube sites, Dating, Cams, Adult Gaming and Male Enhancement are all still dominating.

Is there anyone actually running Adult Media Buys right now? Or tried it in the past?

There are waves of popularity, then it kind of dies down with different trends and such...but the guys that just kept doing their thing and focusing on ONE THING, win.

This is an important lesson I want to share.... if you’re a newbie, try not to fall for shiny object syndrome... don’t jump on whatever is “hot” right now...

Just focus on ONE MONEY MAKING method at a time and give it a good go for at least 3 months straight.... a lot of newbies give up too soon.

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Anyway... onto the guide/follow along....

So, I'll be running a PPL Cam offer.

If you’re a newbie, you want to stick with PPL offers instead of PPS.

This will allow you to get data back faster and see what's working.... it also means you won't need a huge advertising budget to start with, because it will be easier to get someone to join your offer for free VS them having to spend money to join.

You can spend $50 and get a handful of leads (data).

But spending that same $50 on a PPS offer, you might not even get 1 sale and have no sales data to work with.

You'll need to spend more money on PPS offers before getting sales.

A good rule of thumb is, and a question a lot of newbies wonder.... How much do I spend on an offer to get enough data?

3X the payout..... so, the Cam offer I'm running pays out $3.50...

$3.50 X 3 = $10.5

Ill want to spend at least $10.5 on the banner, landing page and offer combination before pausing (if it didn’t get any leads)

So, the details for my campaign are as follows:

Offer: Jerkmate DOI $3.50
Ad Placement: Pornhub, USA, Mobile Header
Spend Cap: $50 /Day

So, as you can see, I'll be running JerkMate, targeting PH Mobile Header in the USA and capping the spend at $50 per day.

No need to spend anything crazy, just starting out the campaign and testing things.

Another mistake newbies make is...

Testing too much..... trying to test 10 different banner ads, with 10 different landing pages and 10 different offer pages.

I can understand the logic behind this, I made the same mistake at first too..... “If I test heaps, I'll find winners quicker right?” Wrong...

This post will get too long and potentially confusing if I break down the math on all of this, point is, you want to test tightly so your $50 budget can get enough significant data across all the possible combinations of banner, landing page and offer.

So, I'm running just 5 banners and direct linking to 2 separate offer pages for a total of 10 possible combinations.

I'm using Voluum tracking software..... it's vital that you use a tracking solution, otherwise I will have no idea which banner/offer combination is doing better than others.

There will be about 3 banners that suck out of these 5, and 2 that will come out on top.

Because I'm running a cam offer, and JerkMate has a lot of great pre made offer pages that I can test, I can just direct link to the offer page from the banner ad...... if I was running Dating, I would be testing my own pre sell landing pages before sending to the join/offer page.

In that case, it would be 5 banners, 2 landing pages and 2 offer pages to test.

Sorry that the formatting is a little over the place, I'll update with screenshots tomorrow and each day... so it will be easier to follow along with the results and all the tweaks I'll be making.

Feel free to ask me any questions on this follow along, as I said.... trying to give back to BHW and help.

You can buy Pornhub traffic from TrafficJunky.com and another little tip is: You want to focus on high volume sites like Pornhub, RedTube, YouPorn, Xvideos as they tend to have better quality traffic than random smaller spammy sites with tons and tons of ads on the site. PLUS, focusing on high volume sites allows you to massively scale when you find winners. If you find a winner on a smaller volume site, it will be harder or impossible fr you to scale.
What specific kpis did you use to decide what offer and what creative? Good landers by offer? Most activity on offer? Best ad creative? Creative most placements on that page? What is your thinking and how to reduce what to test? I agree 50 variables isn't as good as 5 10 very good attempts that a few should win. Tank you kindly.
 
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