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First Tier, how to ensure there is no footprint

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by pumpnick, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. pumpnick

    pumpnick Newbie

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    I have a money site got that whacked by whatever happened May 8th, maybe what some are calling 'Phantom'. I have about 20 sites that acted as a kind of tier 1 for this money site. I read that whatever happened around May 8th may have targeted interlinking among owned sites. And these sites of mine were interlinked and all had lots of links to my money site.
    I was dumb and had all these sites under the same Google analytics account, and they were on the same c block IP address as well. The domain registrar has them registered as 'private' but the name of the owner, me, still shows, just not my contact info.

    Lo and behold, May 8th nailed my money site, AND nailed every one of these other tier 1 sites too!

    Here's my question: What do I need to do to mitigate these tier 1 sites affect on my money site (besides just deleting or nofollowing all links to my money site)?

    Here are the things I have done so far, but what else do I need to do to make sure these tier 1 sites are in no way associated with my money site any longer.

    1. Change hosting and the IP address to make the ips all unique
    2. Make the domain registrations for all the sites completely private
    2. Delete the Google analytics IDs so that they are not in any way related to each other or any other domains in the network

    What am I missing? I am sure plenty, so any help is much appreciated.
     
  2. pumpnick

    pumpnick Newbie

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    Nothin, huh? Anyone got anything to add, anyone been through something similar?
     
  3. masterjani

    masterjani Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Make sure you change the site with new ip and different hosting provider, As your site is affected, then put up a reconsideration request.

    If you don't need those other 20 sites and not much importance then disavow it.
     
  4. farkasb

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    I'm not sure what to do now as G has alrady seen that you are linking your own site, but here is how I set up my sites:
    Assume, I have one money site:
    - The owner of the money site is always different to any of the owners of the linking sites. So, I usualy register the money site under my company name, and for the linking sites I use either my name, or friends and family etc.. everyone can have maximum 2-3 domains.
    - I bought private proxies ~5 USD / 4 proxies / month.
    - I set up virtual machines using Vmware. Preferable different operating systems. Ie. one XP, one Win 7 etc..
    - Each virtual machine is configured to use a fix IP (proxy). I set up a "virtual didentity" meaning, I register a gmail acocunt, twitter etc.. I usually just pick a name, find a photo (best if you just take a picture of someone for the profile, so it will be unique), upload it to the G+ profile etc.. The point is to set it up in a way it looks natural. Give some details, like. where you live (I mean, pick a location from the city your proxy is from) etc..
    - Every virtual machine - virtual identity - can have maximum 2-3 sites. For the sites, I set up author information and link it to the G+ profile. I link some authority site from the linking sites, like wikipedia, just to avoid having only one link on the sites. This way it looks more natural.
    - I add the sites for the virtual identity's webmaster tools and register them to G analytics as well. Be careful, after the site is added to G analytics, don't just open it from your normal IP, open it only from within the virtual machine through the proxy, because it may also look unnatural, that a new site gets visited directly (not from search) multiple times from you main IP address, from the same you usually edit your money site from.

    So, in short, these are the guidelines I usualy keep. I hope it helps.
     
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  5. john1444

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    What is these 20 sites made up of?

    Are they some kind of network or just web 2.0?

    If they are web 2.0 then i will suggest deleting them and moving on.

    If they are your network same thing too..

    With that you should be okay.

    It's the link pointing to your money site that tanks a site and not the money site itself.
     
  6. BlackHatRael

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    Yes and think of using some private proxies.
     
  7. iglow

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    mosto f my latest articles on blog are about softwares to be used to make sure tier1 is clear :) as thats most important now
     
  8. pumpnick

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    Appreciate all your responses.


    linksmaster:

    Are you referring to changing my money site's ip and hosting? And I would rather not do a reconsideration request because there is not a current manual penalty, and I don't want to attract any attention if you know what I mean. And I would rather save the 20 sites if possible, since I own them all and they are all relevant to my niche. And if I get rid of the 20 sites, then why change the money site's ip and hosting?


    john144:

    They are not web 2.0 sites, they are static sites I own and host, and they all have real content built over a few years. And like I said, they are all really relevant to my money site.


    You really think this is necessary? I am not even sure they are the problem. But it seems like they could be.


    Has anyone noticed this type of thing to be the case? As in, you had a tier one set of sites that were obviously all connected/linked and obviously owned by the same person, pointing to your money site that tanked? And specifically, anyone notice this happen at the beginning of this past May?


    I suppose I could delete all the links and see what happens, and if nothing happens, or if my money sites tanks even more (because of losing a bunch of links) then I could add them back in, right?


    BlackHatRael:

    Why exactly?


    iglow:

    huh?
     
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  9. pumpnick

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    Here are the things I have done so far, but what else do I need to do to make sure these tier 1 sites are in no way associated with my money site any longer.

    1. Change hosting and the IP address to make the ips all unique
    2. Make the domain registrations for all the sites completely private
    2. Delete the Google analytics IDs so that they are not in any way related to each other or any other domains in the network

    Are there other ways Google could see them related that Iam missing?