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First BlackHat CPA Campaign. Advice Needed

Discussion in 'CPA' started by ubermann, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. ubermann

    ubermann Registered Member

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    Hi

    I'm starting my first black hat CPA campaign. And need some advice on making sure I don't get caught or banned.

    I'm using a ppc campaign to drive traffic to a site. Where I offer a free download of a book. If they fill out 3 email submits.

    I just signed up with these networks and told them that I specialize in P.P.C advertizing. The networks are

    Ads4dough, Azoogle, Clicbooth, Clixglaore, Incentreward, Maxbounty, Neverblue ourfreestuff.net.

    A couple of things that I' wondering are:

    1. Since I'm new to these networks - how should I go about cover my tracks? Should I use Brad's wordpress redirection plugin or would it be best just to use a double Meta refresh to blank the referrer? Since I told them that I specialize in P.P.C. anyways and I read that they are use to P.P.C gurus blanking the referrer.

    3 And If I use Brad's Redirection plugin should I buy traffic so my conversion rate isn't so high or should I just leave out there tracking pixel so they can't record impressions or do they frown on that?

    2. Should I just use 3 different submits or rotate through say 10 or so? If I just blank the referrer I believe rotating 10 or so ads would be the best way.

    3. Also which of the above networks would give me the least hassle and ask the least questions? If I used the above ways. Because I'm using P.P.C and don't want to lose any money by them freezing my payments. Plus I don't want to get banned from them because It's I pain in the ass getting into them.

    4 And finally which of the above networks tend to shave the least leads as I using P.P.C and if they start shaving a bunch of leads my profit per click is going to go down.

    Any Advice or Input would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks
     
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  2. MaxSteve

    MaxSteve Junior Member

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    What you are doing is incentive marketing and is perfectly acceptable on some campaigns. If the network you are with doesn't clearly identify whether or not a campaign allows incentives, then just ask your AM.

    And by the way, being open and up-front with your network is probably the best way to protect yourself from being booted and losing all your money.
     
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  3. pm_money

    pm_money Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I wouldn't do nothing BH like that just yet. Drive some legitimate traffic to a bunch of offers, then once you get a nice steady flow of traffic, then start doing the BH stuff. Just my recommendation...
     
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  4. ubermann

    ubermann Registered Member

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    Thanks for the advice you guys.
    I will try it with some incentive offers, but I think I'm still going to blank my referer because I read that some of them will steal your website. and I think I got a pretty good niche that I can exploit with google adwords. I can get real cheap bids.
     
  5. arbitorx

    arbitorx Newbie

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    blanking your refs ,is always a good idea, i would never show my white hat traffic sources, i have heard more than a few stories of cpa companies affiliate managers being paid off, to share traffic secrets.....

    +1 on what pm money said, try some white hat stuff.
     
  6. cacheblazer

    cacheblazer Registered Member

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    It's okay to start out with blackhat IF you limit your daily revenue per offer on each network.....Good rule of thumb when starting out is don't exceed $20 per day on any given offer per network.....For nonincentive offers, stop after 2 days and not touch that offer again for 30days.....For incentive, stop after 4 days and don't touch for 30 days....

    Keep in mind, you will see the same offer on multiple networks so in this case, if all 8 networks have the same offer, you could generate $160 per day (8 x $20).

    Use a rotator or manually switch out your offers to stay under this amount. I use double meta-refresh and I have never had a problem.

    Greed will get you blacklisted on offers! (Trust me on that one!)

    You will have enough offers to work with that you could rotate through offers like crazy and still find new ones to promote.

    You have a good list of 8 networks, although I've been suspicious at times with ads4dough and Neverblue with their reporting....I could be wrong!

    There are tons of networks out there so try to belong to as many as possible!

    Good luck!
     
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  7. anabolicdragon

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    Neverblue reporting is top notch Their program in general is top notch. I wouldnt recommend going black hat with ANY network off the muscle. Wait at least a monh or 2 drive normal traffic then go sprikle in BH with motly WH.
    But again if your doing say 125.00 a week BH over 6 networks that comes out to be 3000 a month. I could llive off that. 125 a week would keep you just under the radar IMO.
     
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