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first 1 to explain order of rss, ping, social wins a prize!

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Bruceamazing, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. Bruceamazing

    Bruceamazing Registered Member

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    One of the forum contributors was talking about the best method of getting indexed quickly, and while I have posted this Q on their website, there is resounding silence.

    Basically, the "most common method" described about getting 'profile links' indexed, sounds exactly the same as people suggest you do for 'link wheels'. What has always been missing from this often repeated mantra, is the detail behind each step (rss, pinging, and social bookmarking), and why it is done in such an order?

    I am not after your personal stashes of sites, links or proprietary software, just wondering if anyone actually knows what each step really does, and how it helps you in serps???

    For instance re link wheels, on web 2.0 pages i have an article, it gives me an RSS feed I can use, and I have checked that it has a DO FOLLOW rule (using firefox ad ons for speed of checking). Assuming that I have a page full of good info and the RSS link I imagine the first step is to submit the feed to an RSS aggregator. What value does this have, then why do I follow it with PINGING, rather than before?

    And the final part is social bookmarking? Does this have to happen last, and manually, is this just referring to the URL of your web 2 property in a blog or forum somewhere? Is a 'bookmarking service' just used to automate it?

    Also I have RSSbot and am considering using that instead of IceRocket or the many other auto rss s/w out there. Is there much difference? I ask this because i have read the pdf and the set up for rssbot seems a little complex, and people are concerned that there is no guarantee that the set of aggregators that come with the s/w are still functioning or that it will tell you if the still are -

    I think with auto article submission and directory submission its the account creation and typing in the image code that slows it all down, making it not very automatic?

    Is the whole point of this (rss, ping, social) to force google etc to scan your page, and then it moves you in the serps? So I take it that you should update your page every two weeks, then do the whole process again? Or do you really get links back, just because you sent your rss off via an aggregator?

    Is this getting close to what its about? If you provide any detail about the order and reasons it would be greatly appreciated. Its like there is some secret club that knows all about this who can write it in plain English, either that, or people are just following the leader ...
     
  2. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    I do it randomly. The aim of the game is to make it look natural, or well if you are only doing it once then I guess you are being natural. Natural to me means spontanously randomly during a certain period of time.

    More often then not I ping first. But to be fair I also ping my bookmarks and rss feeds. Seems to work fine.
     
  3. Bruceamazing

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    By pinging Rss feeds and bookmarks, are you just alerting Google that there may be an update (even if there is not) and somehow it refreshes the RSS URL on the RSS sites list, which counts as a backlink? or do backlinks occur by some other mechanism (ie people finding the site and deciding to visit it or bookmark it?

    I ask this because the whole process of what a specific RSS feed place, or aggregator chooses to do with your RSS seems like a secret. Originally RSS was not meant for pinging etc, and it seems to lend itself to gray hat in the least. Guess I will find out by doing, if there are no hard and fast answers ...
     
  4. kingmeatplow

    kingmeatplow Newbie

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    a ping is just an announcement that you have new content, it send the spiders.

    RSS is really like a sitemap to all of your articles or posts and is what you would normally ping, because that's where you want the spiders to go.

    Social Bookmarks are lists of links, but also have rss feeds.

    If you are asking what to do, then I would do this.

    1. Submit content somewhere, anywhere. blog, article directory, static page etc.
    2. Either get the RSS feed of that content or create one if there isnt one.
    3. Submit that RSS feed to RSS directories

    That will ensure any content you posts gets indexed.

    4. Social bookmark those pages with a specific tag. and a bunch of non related stuff under different tags.
    5. Grab the RSS feed from your social bookmarking page for the "specific" tag.
    6. Submit that RSS feed to RSS directories.

    This will bring in links from Web 2.0

    gl