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Filling in CPA's on your own

Discussion in 'CPA' started by tetten, May 28, 2009.

  1. tetten

    tetten Newbie

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    I've been thinking about filling in some CPA offers on my own. Now ofcourse there are many things that the affiliate networks and the program itself can track to identify that the leads were coming from me. I have not yet tried this technique as I'm trying to make sure I've got everything right before I start.

    So I'm trying to compile a list of what to do to make every CPA entry look legitimit. Please add your own ideas and I'll edit them in the original post.

    Regular CPA
    Email address: Just create a free email address on one of the free services (gmail, yahoo, hotmail, ...). Don't always use the same mail provider and don't always use the same structure for your username (firstnamelastname@....com, randomnicknamerandomnumber@....com, firstname_randomnick@....com). Optionally set up an automatic forward to one of your regular email addresses to click the confirm mail and perhaps some other mailings to make your lead look less suspicious.


    Other personal details (ZIP codes, names, ...): Make something up. Most networks will have access to a database linking IP ranges with physical locations, so watch out on submitting information that is obviously too fake. Choose zipcodes that are roughly in your area.


    IP: This is the obvious one that the networks track. CPA leads coming from the same IP will always mean a red flag. You can use anonymous proxies but most networks will know these and discount them. I would go wardriving and submit one lead per different affiliate network per new IP. Or use the free internet from Starbucks, ... Remind yourself that most of these networks are not secure. You can also get a VPN for around 5$ a month that gives you access to quite a lot of different IP's.


    Referer: I would use a legitimate looking blog or website to get the referer. I would always click through to the CPA offer through this blog. Just draw some content from a different site, add it to your blog and off you go. This will make your leads look less suspicious than when you blank referer. Also very good if email marketing is not allowed. If they track the visitors on your blog (with a pixel) make sure you send some fake traffic as well.

    A good idea is to make your blog look regional. If it seems made for the inhabitants of your area/city, it won't be at all suspicious if all the IP's are seemingly coming from that area as well.


    User Agent: An important one as most people won't bother as they don't know that the networks can track them or they don't know how to change it. A user agent basically looks like this: "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT x.x; us; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/xxxxxxxxxx Firefox/3.x.x (.NET CLR 3.x.xxxxx)" (x's added for privacy). With so many different versions of browsers and OS's around, you can see that it will be pretty unlikely that two (or more) legitimate leads have the exact same user agent.

    Changing browsers will at least do half the trick and will probably suffice. If you really want to play it hardcore, you can change the User Agent manually in Firefox by typing "about:config" in the address bar, right-clicking anywhere, choose New - String, type preference name "general.useragent.override" and then add anything into the next field. This will now be your default user agent. Ofcourse you are better of making it look legit (just play around a bit or look for possible user agents) than just changing it to something random.

    To get rid of the override for good, right-click on the item, click reset, close Firefox and you'll be back to normal.


    Screen resolution (and window size)
    : This is also easily tracked. Now the screen resolution won't be such a big mess as long as you use the resolutions that are mostly used (1024 x 768 and 1280x1024). However I would suggest occasionally changing this as well in your settings.

    It is also possible to track the size of the window that is open at the moment. If you'd want to make sure you're safe, just use full screen browser.


    Other browser related stuff: Color depth, javascript, cookie, java, flash player, quicktime, realplayer, encoding acceptance, gateway interface, header acceptance, ... These can also easily be tracked. Most browsers and computers have similar settings though so it won't be very suspicious if any or all of these will be the same.


    If you keep all the items above in your mind and submit one offer per network per different setting, you will probably be absolutely fine.

    Please add anything else that you might consider.
     
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  2. HaRRo

    HaRRo Elite Member

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    Its not blackhat its fraud.
     
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  3. bevardis

    bevardis Registered Member

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    Correctly.

    I suggest author not to do it, or to pay your friends from the other side of US fill 'em in for you for 5 pennies.

    Now, it's not so good with proxies, they're often see-thru.

    Gl and hf.

    Peace and love,
    bevardis. (general hippy shit)
     
  4. popcrdom29

    popcrdom29 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I agree with HaRRo, it's fraud and you will eventually get caught and not paid.
     
  5. gurujh

    gurujh Registered Member

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    I totally agree with you Harro. I dont know what has been going on lately here on BHW, but so many posts have just been one fraud technique after another.

    I have said in previous posts that there are more than enough ways to make money actually providing what a prospects wants with a offer that supplies his or her needs.

    Yes, this is BHW, and yes you can use black hat methods, but fraud and black hat are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

    I dont mind automation, or back door techniques as long as they do not involve fraud. Use your common sense people! You should by now know what's right from wrong. If it feels wrong, don't do it! If your using a method that has you losing sleep at night, stop doing it! If your worried every time you hear a siren out your window, that is not the way to live. Just my two cents.
     
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  6. havokb8

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    I hate to say it again however, it is my motto that if the only way you can make money is by filling in your own offers your in the wrong business. This is not recommended it won't work out for you
     
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  7. garr12

    garr12 Junior Member

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    That's your best bet IMO
     
  8. lover

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    This is risky as none of your leads will convert at backed and u will get banned.
     
  9. Schlidel

    Schlidel Newbie

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    So would CPAX and SSM be considered BH or fraud? JW
     
  10. WorldPeace

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    What about paying other people to do the signups?
     
  11. homenet

    homenet Power Member

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    I will say this, the time and resources you spend on doing this could be put to a lot better use and could earn you a lot more money using other techniques.

    BUT having said that, this is no more black hat than half the other stuff I read here, 90% of the techniques leave somebody screwed over, whether its the advertiser, the network or the end user.
     
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  12. GreenGoblin

    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    You know, that was 1 of the realist comments I'v seen on this forum in a while.. for some odd reason people trick there self into thinking there blackhat method is a little more legit then the others, and I come to find out its a natural response from someone who's doing or done worse, It's there way to cope with there bullshit.

    It's like a crackhead telling another crackhead im better then you because the crack i smoke is freebase, and the funniest part about it is they look in the mirror and believe it..My grandmother use to tell all the time..and this really stuck with over the years.

    You can lie to others and they believe you, and u can about your day...but the day you look at yourself in the mirror and believe those same lies..your truley a lost soul" most people haven't been caught that's why its easy for them to judge any blackhat method, but what's the diffrence in sean hogan stuffing and me stuffing ....NOTHEN! i just didn't get sued that don't make my stuffing any better, I just didn't get caught. BOTTOM LINE!

    so do you, just understand the end result.

    Shout out to the noob for keeping it 100%
    Respectable Rep given
     
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  13. babyblackhat

    babyblackhat Registered Member

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    I do have the same question...:rolleyes:..
     
  14. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    Depends on your lead source, in my opinion.

    N
     
  15. keinehabe

    keinehabe Supreme Member

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    at the end of the day everyone here looking for '' short way's '' like this ... yeah it's fraud , same type of thing like clicking on your ads from adsense for example , or ssm witch was mentioned up ... thing is ... peoples who's thinking at short ways like this most of the time don't know enough things about security involved into most of the cpa companies ... if you are thinking to become rich from such scheme you are wrong ... things can't be like that ...

    You and everyone out here can bring traffic to the landing pages to have those offers filled by peoples , real peoples who maybe are interested into the offer ... and that's seems to be a better way to approach this '' problem '' ... my two cents you know ...
     
  16. Jared255

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    "The police can mess up 100 times. The criminal needs to mess up once."

    This applies perfectly to you. You forget to change IP/user agent/anything = red flag = investigation = ban = wasted time and proxies. Don't do it.

    Also, you're not learning anything or advancing.
     
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  17. overl00rd

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    So, using GodCPA or CakeSlice is not fraud?

    Faking job leads in CL to fill out CPA pay-per-lead offers are not fraud?

    Am I missing sumthin here?
     
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  18. ~@-kanye-west-@~

    ~@-kanye-west-@~ Power Member

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    I hate people doing their own leads :(
     
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  19. dumdum4gumgum

    dumdum4gumgum Power Member

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    At least its real info submitted in these so advertiser gets what they want the emails
     
  20. kammykhan

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    i think anything to do with filling out your own leads should be banned on here...

    just like click rings etc...

    it just makes the networks do more and more to cut it down...

    also.. if u think about it.. most noobs.. that have only just realised what cpa is... usually go onto fillin leads themselfs FIRST.. before they even know how to deal with referrer info.

    its like the first thing they attemp.. most if not ALL new comers ask about this..

    it should be banned...

    like you said its fraud!