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Few questions about offers- for EXPERIENCED torrent money-makers

Discussion in 'Torrents' started by shout, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. shout

    shout Regular Member

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    OK, here´s the deal. I started using different torrent methods and have learned quite a bit during these 2 weeks of practising. I know how to get download, where to upload torrent, how to make it look real. My torrent go viral pretty almost instantly, but as I just started, I use Sharecash and Bee4.biz for locking my downloads.
    So my problem is- I get clicks, but very few leads. Sharecash is better for me, but nothing to be happy about- maybe 2% convert. Should I stick with these to sites or should I join a CPA network? Is it a big difference when using custom content locker? What kind of offers do you use and what´s your conversion rate? You don´t have to name the exact offer but in general. Do e-mail submits work etc.

    Anyway, I would be really thankful if YOU (hopefully a experienced member) can point me in the right direction.

    Shout:cool:
     
  2. imcdroom

    imcdroom Registered Member

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    I think bit.ly was better than Bee4.biz.
     
  3. cricket1

    cricket1 Senior Member

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    You know, sites such as Sharecash use offers from CPA networks themselves, right?
    So, your best bet would be to join a CPA network.
     
  4. dgaunn4114

    dgaunn4114 Junior Member

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    In general, my experience with torrents is in two-tiered affiliate programs, where you write a book about how to make money online (or copy and paste one :) ) and insert your affiliate link at opportune times, then re-upload it. I quit torrent stuff for the same reason I don't really blackhat anymore -- ultimately only businesses that genuinely create value for all parties invovled have staying power.

    In general though, if your broke, torrents are an easy way to start out and make some seed money for future stuff.

    Yeah, in general CPA companies are better than those other groups, in those companies, you are basically getting less money in return for not having to know how to prevent CPA companies from learning too much about where your leads come from.

    For CPA companies, this technique would almost certainly require blanking the referrer. In my opinion, though, the best torrent monetization scheme I've seen was one where you had a pay per install that you bundled with software they wanted. Then you could delay the pop-up of that software for a few weeks, so people think it's clean. There are directions on how to do both of those things on BHW, so use the search button :)

    Peace,
    DG
     
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  5. EisaG

    EisaG BANNED BANNED

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    im on my second day, of doing torrents + cpa...

    Im already experience in dealing with torrents and binding files etc and what not.. I use to have a botnet.. but anways..

    This is new for me since Im' dealing with cpa, Im using my own content locker with cpa offers on it.. (if you're going to content lock, using your own+cpa offers is your best bet) cpa obviously pays out more then content locker companies...

    But overall, I uploaded 2-3 torrents got 17 clicks and only 2 converts.. 11 clicks were non usa, as for im using a usa only offer, so imagine if those clicks were usa :).

    Also trying using a email 1st page submit offer (offer coverts on email submit), as for most people are not going to want to fill out a lot of bull crap for their keygen or cracked software..etc.
     
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  6. shout

    shout Regular Member

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    Thanks for the answers. I also thought about e-mail submits- they can do it quickly and get their stuff. My main concern is conversion- just have to find the right offer. What´s your average conversion rate and with what kind of offers- share your experience:)
     
  7. Nickel

    Nickel Regular Member

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    It's pretty tricky to do cpa with torrent traffic sucessfully. Even if you use "converts on 1st page email/zip submit" offers, you will definitely be getting scrubbed heavy,
    here's a good explantion why:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netw...ts-1st-page-vs-2nd-page-submit-scrubbing.html
    and overall process:
    http://www.lukepeerfly.com/tag/first-page-submit

    That's not to say it can't be done though, I know one person who claims to be hitting $100 days using torrents+cpa so it is possible but it certainly takes some tweaking to hit that "sweet spot".

    This is the best monetization I know of when it's done legit (non-silent) and user is offered a free app or toolbar during the install process
     
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  8. shout

    shout Regular Member

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    Have you ever tried uploading popular software? If so- did you get considerable amount of traffic and how did it convert (PPI)? It seems to me that movies and games beat sofware concerning seeding numbers when we take a look at new torrents uploaded to trackers.

    And also- didn´t somebody from here earn decent amount every month from torrents + targeted CPA? (I may be wrong...:p)

    Thanks for your answers...
     
  9. EisaG

    EisaG BANNED BANNED

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    damn so second page submits are better huh...

    even on second page submits, if the visitor doesn't pay anything with their cc, advertiser still doesn't get paid, so basically if they get the info whether somebody comes out the pocketor not, they wont scrubb us ?

    its even harder to get someone to fill in thier email address for 1st page submit, ill like to see how would i perform with second page submits :(
     
  10. Nickel

    Nickel Regular Member

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    2nd page submit is what it's all about, no advertiser wants to pay you $1.30 for somebody's zip/email since they obviously can't monetize that. If your users follow to 2nd page and submit legit details there is a chance the advertiser can sell them something which is what they need or else your traffic is crap to them, and you will get scrubbed hard or banned from the offer entirely. The reason offers say they pay on 1st page submit is just to entice you to run them..it doesn't mean you'll get paid

    I run mostly popular apps and games but have done video with drm lock too. Games can be great but they are big files and a heavy server load, movies are high traffic but generally lower conversion, apps are what I mainly stick to and just focus on volume. 5-6k dL's per day is about average
    PPI varies greatly depending on how you do it. My conversion is typically 30% but the pay is lower than cpa (average .20 per install across all countries).

    I don't mean to discourage you about cpa, I think some do suceed with it by sticking to it and tweaking the shit out of their method until it finally works. Your goal should be to hit 10% conversion or higher but to do that you will really need target your audience efficiently and make it as effortless as possible for them, or else offer something they are drooling to get their hands on.
    If I had to compare ppi and cpa I would say both have equal potential, and both require time, testing and dedication but ppi is still slightly superior since it is much easier to click "accept" button than it is to fill out your personal info and let's face it, most of us are lazy-asses
     
  11. shout

    shout Regular Member

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    I have also realized that torrent traffic doesn´t convert with long surveys and offers, where you have to pay something. So I see different approches in this torrent section- some say that CPA is the way to go, others say that there are better options. I know that nobody reveals their methods and the best thing that you can do is to find out by yourself what works.

    I´ve tried both Sharecash and Bee4.biz at the moment and I get like 300 hits to my locked content in a day (people have to copy and paste my link so I think they´re interested), but very few leads (Sharecash is a better converter so far). How different their offers are? Tried to do Bee4.biz´s one but that was a pretty long offer- I can´t imagine that someone would complete it just to download my simple stuff.:p

    If anyone has gone from Sharecash or similar site to some CPA offer (locked content)- was there a difference in conversion? I know there are so many variables, but I´m trying to find out what path to take.:rolleyes: