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Few PBN questions i am struggling to find answers to!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by myk33, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. myk33

    myk33 Junior Member

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    Hi Guys,

    So I have my businesses which was established around 6 years ago. back in 2010 I managed to get it ranking for my desired "keywords in city" and business was good. then panda came in and it dropped off to pages 2 - 10 for my KWs. So around 2013 I decided to venture down the PBN route and with around 20 sites managed to get my website ranking again for my KW eventually.

    To this day my website is still on page one for the main KWs which is great and keeps business ticking. However they have been slowly slipping away from the top spots which is not good for my OCD! So I have put a healthy budget aside for IM to also target some of the longer tail KWs that we at present don't rank on page 1 for but hover around 2nd - 4th pages as I deem these as "low hanging fruit", they are all related to my main KWs so I hope targeting these will also help push up my already page 1 KWs further.

    All domains I purchase have a good clean backlink profile with good DA PA CF TF etc.
    All domains are brandable names and not buy-cheap-crap.info.
    All domains have fake whois
    All domains are on their own Class B IP address on shared hosting.

    Each website has its own unique theme that has been built by our web designer. usually we buy domains that used to be a real business so resurrect the old site structure but in a new fresh web 2.0 design, we rarely opt for the blog route. In other words we try to make each site look like a real business website that are in operation serving a service. This service is always equal or related to our business niche.

    So here are my questions:

    1. Since January we have created 6 new PBN sites, over the past 2 weeks we have dropped these links to the pages that had long tailed KW ranking on page 2 - 4 as mentioned above. Since these links have been dropped over the past few weeks we have not really noticed a jump in the SERPs for these KWs... Is this normal nowadays? I have read in some places that google can take time to value new links to prevent people from "gaming" the system and knowing what kind of links work better than others etc. I know its only 6 links but I want to reiterate that these KWs are low to medium competition and they are on pages 2 - 4 so I would hope to see at least a 10 - 15 point SERP rise...

    2. All websites are hosted on cheap shared hosting costing 10 - 15 USD per year. it has been said that google has been cracking down on these cheap hosting providers as the majority of them are crappy PBN sites. All of my sites are still indexed so at the moment there is no worry for me with regards to my chosen hosting providers thus far. This is a difficult questions to answer however if google decides that one or more of the IPs that my websites are on are junk will it devalue links from that IP but keep the sites indexed thus giving a false positive or just straight out de-index the site. My dilemma is, could the new websites I have chosen to host my new blog sites have been "de-valued" regardless of google indexing them which couild be the answer to question one?

    cheers guys, ill go put my tin foil hat back on now...
     
  2. TayaX

    TayaX Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I'm not an expert in this field as I'm only building it at the moment, but for your point 1/, what does Google Webmaster Tools say? If the backlink appear there, it woud mean it has been taken in consideration already, otherwise not really.
     
  3. myk33

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    Yes all links are indexed and showing within WMT!
     
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    don't worry about the hosing ... that no problem
     
  5. myk33

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    Thanks but what makes you so sure? if I google cheap pbn hosting I get 10s of forum posts listing all the cheap hosting providers most of which I have one of my websites hosted on.

    Do we know if google simply de-values links from sites from said IP and/or deindex them?
     
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    How is your onsite SEO?
    In my expereince onsite SEO is more important
    than number of links for local. Don't dismiss onsite SEO!!

    I have a local site that was tanking, I fixed onsite SEO,
    deleted PBN and the site went up!!

    Here is a quick quide: http://backlinko.com/on-page-seo



     
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  7. myk33

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    Thanks for this, great link however yes, my onpage SEO for the targeted KWs are good, most of the things in that link have already been applied to my landing page.
     
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