I'm looking for some guidance from my fellow blackhatters. I'm not sure I'm at a low, just totally confused about what to do. Been marketing online approx 6 years (3 full-time) but struggle to cover expenses like rent/bills/food/taxes. I decided that I ain't gonna do this anymore, the way I'm doing it. Sold off the few good white hat assets I had as they are not going to take me to the next level that I want (6 figures). I have the usual problem of having too many ideas. Still, I've done some things right and I've learned a lot. What annoys me most about online sites is how you find something that works and then the game suddenly changes and you're back to square one. Every success that I've had has eventually fizzled out. I'm fed up of plugging holes in the dyke only for more leaks to develop. So I sold up. I think I'm gonna go back to the workforce. 3 years out is not good but I think I can temp and get back to what I used to do. Problem is that my old job sucked. It's IT Support so it means you are treated like sh1t every day. I may try going for a regular marketing job, we'll see if they take me with no real world experience, I think I've learned a lot from my IM work. I don't want a career, but I think I'm forced to. I've got aging parents whose culture is not to save but depend on their kids. In 5 years time, I'm gonna have to support them which sucks. Kinda scary seeing as I don't have a career and need to somehow pick up the pieces. At least when I'm working again, I'll actually have money. If I can save the money, I could buy Adsense sites as they are maybe the only type of sites that can reliably keep bringing in the money. That's my plan at the moment. Some advice for anyone reading and hoping to go full-time: - don't jettison your career. Make sure you are earning some serious money before going FT. Well, you could take a risk, but if you're not 6 figures within 2 years, I suggest going back to "work". - if you're young and don't have a degree yet but are planning one, choose a good one! I did choose a good one but I have no desire to do what I used to do. Back in my day, there was no internet, we just fell into a degree, whatever seemed logical at the time. There was no good advice. - Selling ebooks is NOT a career. OK, there are a few people who build a brand around themselves. They get great sales from their single brand. But the vast majority make peanuts. And most white hat stuff is actually just as risky as black hat. The white hatters just don't admit it. Be critical about what you are doing - are you building a real career, a real business? It's OK not to if you just want to raise some funds to reinvest (if you don't have expenses like I did) but don't fool yourself into thinking that Clickbank affiliate sites or CPA promotions or something else are a career. Even if you earn 50,000 USD per year, that doesn't make them a career. It could all go down the tubes within a couple of years. What is a real business? You need to help people by providing a good or a service but the key thing is help. And try to plan one foot in the real world e.g. offline marketing to businesses, dropshipping, software. So I guess I'm going back to the real world, to do a career. I ain't happy about that. I detest working in offices. I detest working for others. I detest most jobs. I'm past the point (and don't have the funds) where I can go back to school and do something good like a Computer Science degree, for example. I long for a simple life, humans have existed for over 200 million years happy in tribes and yet rapidly our lives have changed, faster than our bodies and minds can cope with it. I don't like the way we live to spend 5 days out of 7 at work etc. and live sh1t lives in the industrialised world (and yet most are deluded into thinking we live better than ever!). With the exception of better healthcare, it's all bull. Any advice for me? I know what I have to do, there's pretty much no way out of it. Man, if I had just created a page of content a day for the last 5 years I would be set. Then again, I might not be, you never know with Google and other games. IM just gets harder and harder, too many BS things out of your control. That's why sites sell for 10x earnings these days, because even the most reliable sites can turn to dust quickly. Anyway, that's my story. I don't consider what I've done as a failure. I plan to buy these sites in a couple of years as part of my plan. More than anything, I plan to save this time (when I worked before, I never saved anything). Saving and having money gives you power and I firmly believe you should have a growing fund and never reinvest all of it or at least build your assets over your lifetime and have a proper diversified risk strategy. I'm not looking for pity here by the way, I hope that some good can come out of this thread from discussion and thoughts that you have. Not just for me but for everyone's benefit.