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feel bad for this kid

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by l3east, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. l3east

    l3east Registered Member

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  2. mightybh

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    woow, some of the comments left on that story are unbelievable!


    Unfortunately this kid is not alone. This is human nature. Kids will always bully and be bullied. In fact, it does not stop at school. Bullying and harassment continues throughout your life.
     
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    Wow that's really sad. Looks like the mother did a lot of the right things. She talked to her son all of the time and even went to class with him sometimes. I bet that made it really hard for her.

    mightybh is right, bullying happens all of the time and everywhere. But what can be done about it? I hope that video opens the eyes of a lot of people. Some kids are stronger than others.
     
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    brings columbine to mind. a few years ago i was at a forum where some idiot said that this
    sort of thing was a 'rite of passage'.

    ... it's a passage to the next world.
     
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    I think the point may have had something to do with increasing awareness, even here. All it might take to make the difference in one child's life is for someone else to recognize an issue and intervene ... maybe even someone here on this forum.

    It so breaks my heart to think of a child so young losing so much hope and self esteem -- and feeling so very alone -- that he couldn't imagine any solution other than suicide.

    Edit: My kids today have hunted eggs and been easter-partied, are fed, bathed and safely tucked into bed. But I'll admit to having taken an extra peek at them after reading this post.
     
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    I really hate bullies. I used to have to take an alternative route walking back home from school.

    Those days are over!!!!
     
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    Your a sorry piece of shit man... every time you comment on something it's negative. You are always putting others down when they bring things up like this and try to bring awareness to issues.

    What's the point? Bullying, rape, and murder will still go on? Yea, no shit bro, but this is just a reminder to those of us who are fortunate enough not to be involved or around these type of things. We can't stop it all? No shit, but if this post helps make even just one person's life better then it was worth it.

    So, keep your negativity to yourself. I'm sick of your shit and reading your lame ass comments.
     
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    Double checking the sleeping kids as well.
     
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    helloall, get lost.
     
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    1. Shut the hell up and don't speak to Sinewave that way. She is damn near universally respected here.



    2. Remembering your webcast and taking into consideration how you conduct yourself here at BHW, I would be willing to bet that ALL the kids at your school regularly beat the shit out of you. No worries though. That's why I pay so much in federal income tax, so that mildly retarded kids like you who get bullied can get the counseling that you need in order to engage in highly productive activities like hanging out at BHW and giving your worthless opinion on everyone's threads and posts.
     
  11. Hugo

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    Ok, so maybe I'm inviting a shit storm to my front porch here, but I really don't care about bullying. Seriously. Yeah it's tough. I got bullied in scool. And (regrettably) I bullied a few kids myself growing up. I'm ashamed of that, which is why I don't participate in that kind of behavior in the first place.

    The fact that an 11 year old hung himself is sad, but certainly doesn't make me care about bullying one ounce more.

    The world is a cold dark f@cked up place. And bullying is so far down the list of colossal problems to fix, I cant even see it from here!

    All the kids who die every year as a direct or indirect result of bullying doesn't even touch the numbers of kids dying DAILY from hunger, aids, dysentery. All we're doing is focusing on bullying cause it seems like as easy or even possible problem to fix.

    With hunger, disease et al. we can't all just feel like we're making a difference by "raising awareness" because those problems obviously call for infrastructure and resources that, let's be honest, we aren't willing to throw at them. But this does nothing to serve our human need to feel like we're helping, so instead, we pick some 3rd rate issue, blow it completely out of proportion and pretend we're making a difference by thinking good thoughts...

    I truly feel sorry for that boy's family I really do. But the question of "who dropped the ball" is a ridiculous one. The problem wasn't with the system it was with the boy. Yes bullying is wrong. Yes the school probably could have done more. But the reality is, if that boys psyche was so fragile that he couldn't make it out of middle school in one piece, what could he have expected from the rest of his let-down of a life.

    The kid needed therapy. Unfortunately, his cries for help went unheard for far to long, because the people around him were too busy decentralizing the problem to everyone else.

    Sorry for the rant. I should probably impose a no typing after 1 am rule on myself...

    -Hugo
     
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    I watched the video. I saw the mom, but where's the dad? If the dad is gone, that probably had a lot to do with the kid's depression.
     
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    This situation may be too mature for you. Your in high school with that same attitude most of us had. Fuck them, if they can't fend for themselves then oh well, right? As long as it's not me.

    Well, unlike you... some people in here have a family; kids who they deeply love and want the best for. They don't want to send their kids to school and have to worry about stuff like bullying, etc. When you have kids you will surely come around and maybe understand where some of these other people are coming from.

    Do you have a younger brother or sister? Would you care at all if they were being beat up or threatened every day at school, a place where they should be comfortable and there to learn? It's as simple as that... no we can't stop it all, but every person matters. I've been out of high school for a few years now, but my sister is still there. She used to have problems back in the day... so after reading this I gave her a call and just asked how things were going. I think that meant more to her than anything.

    What if your mother, relative, or some family friend was raped? You wouldn't feel compassion for them? You wouldn't want to help them out and do something about it and help prevent it from happening to others?

    That's all this whole situation is... a reminder. There is absolutely no need for your negativity on this, or any other, post. It's the lounge... relax.
     
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    This is why my kid will train kickboxing, brazilian jui jitsu and basically self defense from early age. I think the main reason why kids are bullied is because they are afraid to do something back - afraid of the consequences. If I teach my kid that beating up others for defense and getting punched himself is ok, then he will not be afraid to beat others whoever try to harm him or with words or with force.

    Think about it - if the kid doesn't react and let his emotions fill up, eventually one of the 2 things will happen:
    1) Multi kill
    2) /suicide
    Now we don't want that do we. That is why kids should be able to fight to each other and break noses from time to time (they are little animals after all), but then in the end grow up as normal healthy individuals.

    I'm not sure about this. In later life people are more intelligent, but to some extent - yes. I was bullied as a kid but it didn't continue in life because I hit the gym, started training self defense and my self-esteem skyrocketed. I am actually willing to pick fights now, but nobody wants to anymore lol

    PS
    Don't listen to bullshiters who say that in order to stop bullying you have to ignore bullies or tell your parents or all that crap. It DOESN'T WORK! They will only pick on you more. I am talking from practice here. The only way to beat bullies is by brute force. You don't even have to beat him, just show him that you won't tolerate his actions and he will back up.
     
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    Bullying is nothing fun and unfortunately it happens or has at least happened to everyone. :(

    @helloall - Sorry but I can't help this... :lmao: I knew that guy would get banned sooner or later, he pisses off a lot of people with his stupidness and bullshitness.
     
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    I agree with you small town boy, i am going to forced all of my children into the martial arts from 5 or earlier. It's also a great way to stay in shape and get friends.
     
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    they have seekmo on their pages. i bet they make lot of cash with.
     
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    Hmm i wrote long shit here but though it was too stupid :p

    Fuck bullies , i bet the schools could work out if they really wanted , Reward the people who report in the bullies , even if other people think its retarted but they are retards them selves =/
     
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    I regularly discuss this issue and this is why we have school massacres to this day, victims are ignored, suppressed, and punished if they defend themselves. I have suggested some changes that can make the school system better - implement lie detectors in schools and when an incident occurs have all of the parties take the lie detector test, punish the suspect and reward the victim, and encourage self defense. This is just one of the realistic and immediate solutions that can be implemented.The swift expulsion of violent students is the key, and perhaps even juvenile detainment. We need not spare the rod. We have the equipment, the outdated school system refuses to implement it. This can set in motion a large movement of confidence by the victims, confidently reporting their bullies and watching them be punished for their inhuman actions.
     
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    The school is the one who dropped the ball.
    I've gone to school in different countries (notice plural) and they always had strong interventions to bullying. Bullying often occurs when you're much younger. My old school had nearly a zero-tolerance policy...you get bullied, you tell parents who then tell school, who then tell the bullies' parents ...or as a parent of the victim you bell the bullies' parent. That happened to me after we teased him about his girlfriend; an apology was given the day after and everything was squashed. The problem was that we didn't even know it hurt him that much that we spoke to him about his girlfriend. In our eyes it was all banter.
    I was never picked on from the age of 0-19...Never. What happened in uni was the first real experiences of people trying to bully. Notice; trying as I put it straight to their face we could sort it out with fists flying. Anyway, the only way I saw to resolve this problem was hitting the gym. Went into hiding for 6 months and when people saw me again, they went; wtf happened to this guy. I'm bigger than I was back then and I can tell you, if you're as big as a doorframe, noone is going to talk shit to you. Mentally they've already lost the advantage of talkin sh*t knowing they would get crippled if it escalated.
     
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