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Feedback requested for SEO service idea

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by madoctopus, Mar 2, 2016.

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Would you be interested in this?

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  1. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    Hi folks,

    I'm considering starting a SEO service and would love to have your thoughts on it. So, without further ado, here are the details:

    Cost $100-$400/year (you pay yearly, there are no monthly payment options)

    What the service consists of:

    You get your AdSense ads placed on a site. You do not receive the site or own it. You just get 100% of what those ads make you. Sites are between 100-1000 pages in size (service cost is based on site size and a few other factors like site keywords CPC, CTR, etc). All sites are managed by me - that means content creation, on-site optimization, link building, etc. It is 100% managed by me. I own or control the site and can place my own monetization on the sites as well.

    In essence it is like having your own site but without the hard work and the ownership of it. There are no guarantees to how much money you'd make but chances you'd not make a profit are slim. Let me give you a specific case:

    Let's say you start yourself with a fresh site. You have to work to create it: setup, on-site optimization, CTR/CR optimization, content creation, link building, management, etc. Then you need backlinks - that means either long term hard work or for most people around here means paying for link building services. In practice most such services are garbage and at worst they get your site penalized and your work lost and at best they have minor effects. There are some services that are decent but I think we can all agree that for a $16.6/month ($200/year) link building service you're not going to get shit. Most people from what I know order in excess of $500/year worth of link building services that in most cases end up killing their sites. I have tried to help out people on this forum in various ways and I got to see the quality of sites most people have around here. I would say 90%+ of SEOs around here have almost exclusively extremely low quality sites - garbage unreadable autospun content with spam links. I have even seen many who take pride their site has great content but somehow they disregard the fact they bough link building services and their link profile is garbage and they wonder why they don't rank.

    Now, with this service you'd have zero work and stress, pay a fraction of the money and simply get earnings in your AdSense account from a large site that's properly optimized and has quality white hat link building done to it. As a matter of fact in the unlikely event a site gets penalized we re-place your ads on another site of similar size completely free.

    So for $16.6/month ($200/year) you'd get all that. To cut even your ads would have to make at least $16.6/month which is by no means a lot of money. Again there would be no guarantee of how much money you'd make but I think all-in-all this is for many, many reasons a good offer. However I want to know what your thoughts are on this. If it sounds too good to be true... it is that good.

    I want to address one thing. A member from here brought to my attention that there have been similar services in the past and those who started them ran out with the money and didn't offered what they promised. So I will tell you this:

    There is a chance (a slim one) that you won't make a profit from this. My interest is to keep getting those money from you year after year so if you're complaining you're not cutting even (and you prove it) it is in my interest to find a solution so you get a profit so you keep paying me. On top of that the bulk of my profit comes from my own monetization of those sites or other agreements I have with the site owners that directly or indirectly make me money. The one thing that is certain is that the more traffic the site has the more money I make and the more money you make. So our interests are 100% aligned. Also, you are doing business with an actual company not some dude on a forum so no chances of us scamming you and running away.

    So please answer the poll and tell me your thoughts on this and whatever questions you have.

    Thank you!
     
  2. CenTex Hosting

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    my question is this. why would you offer it to other people. If you can put up a site, put ads on it, get it ranked why not just do it for your self and keep the profit. Will be way less than a pain in talking someone to give you 200 or 400 bucks for this.

    even if you say you may not make any money a person that does this is thinking I am going to hit it rich. and after a month or two they will be all over you on why they are not making money. Then you face charge backs.

    on paper it looks good but IMO i dont think it would work in real life.
     
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  3. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    Because the cost for me to manage a site is a fraction of what it is for most people doing SEO. However they need an upfront cost for either creation or revamping, which I need to cover for them to be able to exist. So instead of being limited to a growth of let's say 10 sites/month I can increase this by using money the users pay me. Yeah I am apparently loosing a shitload of money by not putting my own adsense on them but in reality the existence of a site would not be possible without the influx of cash from the service.
     
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    Be that as it may, as a consumer I'd be highly suspicious of this whole setup. You'd have to prove to me that these sites actually generate a sufficient adsense revenue for it to be worth it, and if you're able to prove it, then I'm going to question why you're in such a darn hurry to set up another similar one. Plus, a year at a time is a lot in this case, as if you're able to set these up so quickly, I worry that they'll churn and burn, and the likelihood that I make anything at the tail end of that subscription period seems low.

    In short, this feels like a high risk, low reward setup for the buyer, so I'm out.
     
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  5. HostSEO

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    People would probably think if it's so profitable, why aren't you monetizing it on your own?
     
  6. LuckyCharm007

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    What I understand is basically you want to start some money site but you don't have the budget to do so. So basically your asking for $ to build those sites and after a year when its finally making some decent money you will just cash it out all for you.
     
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  7. madoctopus

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    @neverquitting: Sites are WH. They take 6mo on average to get rolling so withing first 6 months income will be very low. Why make many? Because I can and if i can why make few?! "and the likelihood that I make anything at the tail end of that subscription period seems low." I dont remove ur ads unless the site gets penalized which there's 99.99% chance it wont.

    @HostSEO I answered that.

    @LuckyCharm007 Yes, those sites can only exist with outside investment so I am asking for $ to build them as you say. After a year I can't cash out because I am always cashing out. I have my own monetization on the sites so I make money just like the client does. On top of that only reason why I remove the ads is in case site gets penalized so i re-post ads on another site so user keeps earning. But in that case 1st site gets trashed (content removed, domain expires).
     
  8. utterlyadrift25

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    Sounds like an interesting but slightly eccentric proposition but how is this an SEO service though? This is more like a website rental service.