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Fastest way to improve ranking. bh/wh hybrid?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Baskets, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Baskets

    Baskets Registered Member

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    I am doing some consulting for a site that gets about 50 visitors per day as is, and ranks on page 1 for 20 out of the 30 keywords we are targeting.

    The thing is the CEO is all about page 1 and getting immediate results. I've mentioned time and time again SEO takes time. Anyway we have several page 2 keywords, some page 5, and a page 9.

    In order to increase the ranking for the page two keywords for a keyword like "Toughbook" or something equally difficult, what do you recommend? This is a large company, and I don't even want to risk getting them de-indexed.

    I was thinking of link panda's service for 12,500 xrumer links, and the "(linkbuildingking com/link_wheel_services.php) -wheel 10" package. I don't think those should have any negative effects, but do you think these would show me fast results?

    I'm sorry to sound like a 15 year old noob, but the pressure is being put on me, and in all my searching, I can't find a solid answer.
     
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    Seeing your doing consulting,I would invest in Xrumer to help you out.
     
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    Baskets Registered Member

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    I have no problem using it, I just don't want to over use it and get de-indexed.
     
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    You took an SEO client, and you came here to ask which service to buy?

    Do you think it is THAT easy to rank? I mean the paradox is, you have fear getting deindexed, loose rankings, etc. and want to know which BlackHat tactic to use?

    Hmm.. I'm just curious how you found that client ???

    My advice to you is, OUTSOURCE the SEO work to a good WH link builder, but you will have a problem finding a good one, as you don't know what it takes to be a good SEO.
     
  5. Baskets

    Baskets Registered Member

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    I didn't take them on as SEO, I built a separate website for them, then they fired their web guy and brought me in to manage both sites.

    I know what makes good SEO on page, but as far as link building, and article writing, I am novice. I know what it takes, good link wheels and high quality back links. Well at least that's what I've read. I don't want to invest their money in these areas unless the ROI is there. I'm sure you understand.
     
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    Hmm.. ok.

    Be sure to tell them it can take some time, and not to expect it in the next 2-3 weeks, most of the time.

    Depends at which kind of a keyword you try to rank for.

    Don't do direct linking to the website, if you don't want risk it to much, instead use web 2.0 properties. You can build them in pyramids. Like some more web 2.0 properties, pointing to some other web 2.0 properties, which point to your website.

    Then just xRumer the web 2.0.

    I would suggest using High PR profile pages directly to your site. They work for me personally good. Some stuff you can outsource for cheap here.
     
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    tbsweet52 Junior Member

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    Might want to edit where you wrote "good link wheels" and just write "good links" :) even though link wheels (though some argue it's a thing of the past) can help.

    I too have been put under pressure by a company before and all I could say was SEO takes times. Now, they have no clue about any of the stuff we do here which is good (keeps us in business) but bad because they expect quick results.

    The only SEO service I would truly invest in (at least wish I could at the moment) would be putting together a solid, experienced team of SEO'ers who know everything SEO. Other than that, I dont have any experience with long term BH effects (only short term) and they can be good. But the minute you stop is the minute you drop back down.
     
  8. Baskets

    Baskets Registered Member

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    Thank you for the detailed answer.

    The keywords he really wants me to go after are "Panasonic Toughbook" "Toughbook" and the like. We already rank well for them, page 2 I believe.

    So what you're saying is build sites at say blogspot for example, post some articles there which link to my "money site" then do all the BH I want on the middle man site, and that should increase my rankings?
     
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    Baskets Registered Member

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    Makes no since to edit my post now that you quoted it and pointed it out, does it, lol.
     
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    Baskets Registered Member

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    After reading what you said, and this thread blackhatworldDOTcom/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/265440-how-blasting-buffer-site-will-improve-my-ranking.html I think the answer is yes.