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Fanotmaster's 20 links a day

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by seomanifest, Oct 14, 2008.

  1. seomanifest

    seomanifest Regular Member

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    Fantomaster is offering 20 links a day for about $157 a month the service seems cool he is using a network of existing blogs and sites which have different class c networks, ok this does sound good, but now let?s try to analyze the real cost of the service; the way the system works is that you need to submit 20 unique articles a day to get your articles published and get your one way links. let?s suppose your articles cost you 5 cents a word and you need atleast 500 word articles that is $25 per article which makes $500 a day in articles, and to take advantage of the 600 links (one link per article) you would have a cost of $15000 a month in just content fees.

    Fantomaster also states on his site that all IP addresses are from different class c networks, that is fine as long as the Class C networks are owned by different organizations, if you can do a whois query on the different class c addresses and the owners are different and the networks are different then that is good, otherwise a pattern exists.

    Other possible patterns are the use of the same domain name registrar.

    Fantomaster also claims that in his system there are no patterns the search engines can spot, but if you are adding 20 links a day isn?t that already a pattern?

    The idea of having a centralized control panel to distribute content is not new don?t get me wrong, I think his idea is great especially since we have something very similar to his but we do not advertise it in the open so that our network does not get compromised. If the search engines where to open an account with 20links a day they could easily link the nodes on the network and start banning or penalizing the network sites and flagging them as commercial links.

    Fantomaster?s offering seems like a good one if you are actually getting access to 600 different hosts a month, if not there is obviously a pattern, I highly doubt that you will get so many different hosts it just does not make business sense and the cost would be astronomical
     
  2. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    I think you need to consider who their clients are.

    And also there is Dedicated servers with 35 different c clash IPs that you can use for $500 / month.

    But I agree about the article part, I think it is difficult to have that many articles to send out each day and not very cost effective.

    So that is the only part I see a problem with.

    Also you need to know that they have installed Shadow domains for sites with over 1000 C class ips, for just one project.

    So 1000 domains with 1000 ips.

    Kandor

     
  3. yellowarrior

    yellowarrior Newbie

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    I have been using this service for about 4 months now. It is really effective on medium competitive nitches because we don't need to make out the 20 links each day.

    Each article averages us 3-4 bucks (we are paying 1.4 cents a word and getting decent copy). Also the articles can be as low as 200 words.

    We cover about 6 active campaigns right now with one account and are NOT maximizing the daily 20.

    Still well worth it.
     
  4. valwardon

    valwardon BANNED BANNED

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    Kinda the idea I use to get backlinks . I have been submiting articles to article directories and lens and blogger and other types of sites .

    Honestly it is working pretty good on my test site . I may try this idea though .

    So let me see if I get this straight I pay for the service $157 and write the articles ?

    How about this I do the exact same thing you can pay me $150 you write the articles and I can use my balcklinking strategy gotten for free here to get the backlinks .

    I must be confused .
     
  5. yellowarrior

    yellowarrior Newbie

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    Yeah, you have to provide the articles.

    The benefit in our eyes was that we havn't build our network up large enough yet to be valuable for our campaigns.

    This way we are paying monthly to have access to a network that we don't have to manage or promote.
     
  6. valwardon

    valwardon BANNED BANNED

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    Honestly I think the free techniques given here at BH to be of more value .

    Like article directories social book marking web 2.0 sites Blogger, wordpress etc.etc.etc. Can easily if you work at if get you well over 300 permanent real whitehat backlinks a month or more .

    But hey people who want to spend 157.00 to do the same amount of work and run the risk that some day that network may go down be my guest.
     
  7. voxclan

    voxclan Regular Member

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    Hey guys,

    What about a possible group buy here? Personally, I would not want/need the 20 articles slots/day but would love to use this service.

    I also thinking about another similar service and then maximize values and various C blocks.

    This is certainly a possibility and a good ROI as a small group.

    PM me if interested.
     
  8. seomanifest

    seomanifest Regular Member

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    Hi,

    If I get enough interest I will offer what I describe on http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/28773-search-engine-optimization-theory.html and on top of that I would add an article spinner in the control panel


     
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  9. jagrmeister721

    jagrmeister721 Junior Member

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    Where do we go to find out more. Can you post the site, or do we have to PM fantomaster or you?
     
  10. seomanifest

    seomanifest Regular Member

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    Hi,

    You can find out more about the idea here http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/28773-search-engine-optimization-theory.html

     
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    *zap* Regular Member

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    I did this sort of thing over at web*host*for*seo.com and did not see any benefit

    And thinking about it the reason being if every website in the world had a dedicated IP we would need to add more numbers to the IP range


    So we are using a Blog setup but which one? WP, BlogSolution? that one could be a big mistake?
     
  12. seomanifest

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    I meant each site would have its own dns server to avoid patterns, obviously several sites will share IP addresses, but the network would span different geographical zones thus providing different class "B" or even "A" networks

     
  13. albaniax

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    Will this service also work with international websites (Non-english sites) ?

    Any reviews?