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Fake the refferer .... Website question

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by ezcashplus, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. ezcashplus

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    I have a horrible time finding the answer to a couple of questions I have. And yes I know how to use the search button.

    Here is my scenario - I post an ad...on twitter(j/k) cl. then someone replies to this ad. then I reply saying "goto http://www.mydomain.com, and do this"

    ok, now when my am checks my refferer, what are they going to see?

    if the person types in the site what will they see? if the person clicks in the email on my domain will they see that it came from an email?

    Thank you so much in advance.
     
  2. allrecycle

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    im doing almost the same thing but using a tinyurl ...i want to know the answer also
     
  3. eskimo

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    if they type in the domain, it should show up as direct traffic. too much direct traffic can be a bad thing (specially if you have a looooooong URL like www.maketonsoffreemoneyonlinefastrighthererightnow.com or whatever). They will suspect something fishy is going on

    if they got there from a link in a mail, the refferer will be google mail or whatever (they can see its from an email)

    edit: i suppose this depends on what their system does, but i think most will be like the above.
     
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  4. ezcashplus

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    thank you eskimo.

    on to my next question then, is there any code on can put on the page or anything where I can fake this traffic?

    and 2. if i put in the email my domain but when they get to my domain there is a banner that they have to click to get to the form to fill out...or whatever, then is the referrer - http://www.mydomain.com?

    rep given and thanks...
     
  5. allrecycle

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    what about if the link is in a chat message like aim or msn would it come up as aim traffic??
     
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    very helpful post, i swear i read 20 threads and could not find an answer to this, haha.

    thank you.
     
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    try putting google analytics on a site, and then test all the different ways you want to present your links (AIM, in emails etc...)

    analytics will give you a breakdown of how people got to the site and the refferer and whatnot. it should give you a good idea of what they see
     
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    ^^^^^^doing that right now. thanks given again.
     
  11. drkenneth

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    You're going to want to spoof the referer or clear the referer so your AM doesn't know where the traffic is coming from. If the user copy-pastes the link, then the AM will see blank--but if the user uses webmail, they'll see the webmail site as the referer.

    If you want to clear or spoof the referer, you can either use the app I'm linking to in my signature (which may be overkill depending what you're doing), or use this script:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-should-i-double-meta-refresh.html#post334142 (clearing)
     
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  12. matapples01

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    Not sure if it's dead or not but you could try Brad's CPA redirector idea. Anyone know if this still works?

    HTML:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/37204-fake-referrer-cpa.html
    Or an updated spin on it

    HTML:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/cpa/101698-get-best-redirector-my-edit-brad1001-god.html
     
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  13. ezcashplus

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    thanks given to both and to drkenneth, I got stuck on your thread, haha. Been reading that for like an hour now.

    I was wondering if I made a link with http://www.hiderefer.org like bhw does if that would just blank it for me? It isn't so much as I don't want them knowing where my traffic is coming from, I just don't want them to know that it is coming from an email.

    I am not new to CPA at all. I actually do quite well with PPC +CPA I am just looking for something to keep my a.d.d. at bay and have thought of some (what i think are good) ideas for cl and some other stuff. People would have to email me first then I would send them an email back with the link in it...would hiderefer.org work for me?

    Thank you again for the answers.
     
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    hiderefer.org uses a single meta refresh so some browsers will still send the referrer (risky), but most of the referrers will just be blank. A blank referrer isnt the best solution because it not only looks suspicious, but your AM doesn't know where the traffic is coming from so they could ask for an explanation. What's better is to use a plugin like http://refcloak.com and make the traffic appear to come from a blog related to the niche you're promoting.
     
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    Ok - Instead of starting a new thread I am posting this here. First I would like to say thank to everyone who has helped me today. I am using this new twisted method and it is converting well...I just want to make sure that my traffic is legit.

    So, another quesiton...and I am trying to explain this the best I can.

    I send an email to bob. My email says to fill out this offer go to mydomain.com, when bob gets to mydomain.com he has to click on another link which is a subdomain so we will call it mydomain.com/subdomain. when he clicks on the link at mydomain.com to mydomain.com/subdomain he finds the banner or link or whatever to my offer he needs to fill out.

    Will my referrrer for that page be mydomain.com or will it be blank? or would the referer be mydomain.com/subdomain?

    I really tried to explain this the best I could. Thanks in advance and hope that makes sense.
     
  16. matapples01

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    Unless you're using some spoofing technique or something special to blank the referer, the page that the banner or affiliate link is on will be the referer.

    If the banner/aff link is on yourdomain.com, that's the referer. If the banner/link is on subdomain.yourdomain or yourdomain/subfolder, subdomain and subfolder are the referers, respectively.

    You could, to avoid having them click from domain to subdomain to aff link, use a redirect. It would save you a click as they would click the link on yourdomain.com that appears to go to subdomain.yourdomain.com but automatically bounces (redirects) directly to the affiliate link destination. With a redirect like this, the referer is going to be yourdomain.com even though you technically bounced them through the subdomain page. Most companies allow redirects but some don't. If they don't and visit yourdomain.com and don't see a link to them they may ask you what's up.

    The easiest way to check refers when testing redirects or any other technique is to get some ideas where you want to put your links and place a link to whatismyreferer.com instead of the afflink. Save the page, click the link and it pops a window with what the refer is. When you're happy with the results, just swap out the link with your money link.
     
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  17. ezcashplus

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    Thank you very much. That was going to be my next question. How to check and make sure what my referrer is. Due to this little thread I am now up and in business. It isn't going to be a million dollars or anything but it is converting to where I will be doing around $500.00 per day with it. Thank you very much again. If I have anymore questions I will be sure to ask.

    As for everyone(cause I have read a couple of threads lately) that says their questions don't get answered, look at all the great answers I have received in one single day.

    BHW Rocks and so do most of the Members, LOL.
     
  18. drkenneth

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    Save a php page on your site with the following code and link to it:
    PHP:
    <?php 
    echo 'Referer: '.$_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']);
    ?>

    It will print out the referer. (Assuming there is one.)
     
  19. jamainia

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    can't you just send them to a blogger blog or a little landingpage where you only put the link to the actual offer and some text on it? then the am would only see that the traffic is coming from the landingpage and not from email or im.
     
  20. matapples01

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    You can but then you have to get them to click 2 links...one to get to the blog and one to get to the offer. You have to "sell" them twice.