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Fake Reffing for $200/day Across 4 Networks, How Safe?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Webify, Jan 28, 2010.

  1. Webify

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    Hello all,

    I'm planning to set up a new campaign which will cash in hopefully $200 a day, however I don't want to get flagged up by my networks.

    At the moment I'm a publisher for NeverBlue, Azoogle, FluxAds and Shareasale. I want to know roughly how safe I would be pushing $50 a day on each network over 2 offers per network ($25 per offer) while faking the referer to a white hat site.

    If it's not that safe, could someone suggest some lower tier CPA networks that I could try?
     
  2. tbootz

    tbootz Regular Member

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    Are you starting out? I would stick with under 500/m/network then (15/day). Actually to be safe I'd stay around 300.
     
  3. Webify

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    On the networks I've joined, yes. Could I then build this up? $150/10 networks a day is pretty blah :S. Safety first though of course.
     
  4. darkmarth

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    You would be on the border of scary...Joining more networks is always an option too...

    The 'safe' volume will also be dictated by how sustainable your traffic is...If your BH traffic isnt converting for the advertiser at all...spread your numbers out! If they are still profiting from your traffic and it appears as if youre reffing from a WH site - you can rest much easier about how much income you make with them...
     
  5. AlphaTwin

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    As long as you are faking the referer (not blanking) and you are entirely sure your script can't leak, it should not be a problem. The whitehat site(s) you are redirecting through should of course look like they could drive that kind of traffic.

    But no matter how good you are at faking the referer to make the leads look legitimate, you will get in trouble if 0% of your leads convert! If your are iframing or pay people to signup up for offers, they are not really going to convert.
    But mix in some legitimate PPC traffic. You can pay more for the PPC traffic than you earn from it - you will earn the money back through your blackhat leads. The legitimate PPC leads is just to make sure there will actually be conversions for the advertisers, and thereby make your leads look real.
     
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  6. Webify

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    Yeah, good idea with the PPC traffic :). I'm cool for spreading out, I just want to hit a couple of offers on each network. I don't plan to be in this for too long, just to get a bit of quick capital (2-3 months).

    However I would like to do business with NeverBlue and other bigger CPA networks in the furture, so would it be advised to cut them out of my BH CPA portfolio and join some smaller networks? If I were to get banned from top tier CPA networks, could I re-register under different names and details?
     
  7. darkmarth

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    It would be advised to find out IF your traffic is profitable for the advertiser - I would say if you haven't heard from the network within 2 months of sending consistent traffic, you're a-okay.

    As for using larger networks for BH traffic - as previously stated, if your BH traffic is completely covered and converting well, by all means, use the large networks...

    A word of advice, make sure that youre coooompletely covered before asking for weekly/bimonthly payments...Learn from my old mistakes :)
     
  8. appleman

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    just wondering what networks will payout bimonthly or weekly? Even with a lot of volume I have heard net 15 to net 7...
     
  9. darkmarth

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    Most networks will payout weekly or bi monthly for quality traffic and volume...

    A popular threshold for this is $1,000 per week - for most top tier companies this can be as high as $5,000 per week. Some networks will simply move you to weekly without you having to ask - others will put you through a screening process once you request faster payouts.

    Simply get in touch with your networks support team about payout terms...They are always flexible for affiliates who are bringing them a steady flow of revenue...

    Also, try to barter a little - maybe you're not quite at $1,000 per week - you may still be able to get put on bi weekly...or even get an increased payout for your offer instead of faster payment...

    Good luck, hope this helps somebody!