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Facebook sometimes deletes some of my posts right after publication on fanpage...

Discussion in 'FaceBook' started by towiesio, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. towiesio

    towiesio Newbie

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    Hello.

    For about a month, Facebook deletes some of my posts from my viral website right after publication on my or even someone else fanpage. The only way to avoid this, is to change the thumbnail, but sometimes even if I take my own picture, the same thing happens. Anyone have that problem?
     
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  2. DarkSeid

    DarkSeid Registered Member

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    yes this has been happening to me too and almost all of the pages I own.. and it has been very stressing lately
     
  3. vanessa98

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    Yes! Maybe let just rest our accounts for days
     
  4. towiesio

    towiesio Newbie

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    Eh... And today I got banned on my fanpage. "Your Page has been blocked from sharing links for 1 week. ". I have no idea what they want from my website, everything was okay for 3 years and I did everything I could to make it good. Facebook lately terribly gets on my nerves and stress. This is pathetic...
     
  5. pantazitudor

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    Anyone find a solution to this problem (pages beying blocked for 1 week)? :(
     
  6. froufrou

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    same problem here 40 pages blocked for a week and now another block -no appear posts on newsfeed
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  7. Qool

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    This is their latest filter :(
     
  8. janvitos

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    The same has been happening to all of our pages for about a month as well, and it is killing our reach and business.

    We also run a successful viral website that has been up for more than three years, but I can tell you that things don't look good, unless you have a blue verification badge (I'll explain why below).

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    In May, Facebook announced many changes to its platform, including reducing reach to low quality sites, reducing reach to clickbait sites, and hiring 3000 people to review content.

    Maybe what they meant by hiring 3000 people is that they are building and testing an artifical intelligence filter, but being a secretive and deceptive company as always, they chose to say it that way (oh the irony).

    These changes seem to be geared mostly towards spammy web sites, but since Facebook seems to be operating mostly on autopilot, this could have an impact on any site that posts good content as well.

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    That being said, what we noticed so far is that Facebook has been testing a new filter to automatically filter out things that might go against their community standards. These kind of things include pornography, harm to animals and racism, among other things.

    Though I'm sure most of you don't post that kind of content, their filter seems to be based on artificial intelligence, and these systems usually start off "stupid" and are supposed to become "smarter" with time by learning to differenciate content properly.

    This means that at first:

    - The AI will poorly differenciate, for example, a male body from a female body, so it could remove content that has male nipples (happened to us).
    - It could also poorly differenciate a sleeping cat from a dead cat, so it could remove that as well (happened to us too).
    - And just to make it more obvious, it could also think a picture of a swimsuit with spots that look like nipples is the naked body of a woman, and remove it (yes, it happened to us).

    What I believe is happening is that Facebook is currently training and testing their AI filter on various pages. Why they aren't letting us know the reasons for removing the content is beyond my comprehension, and this just makes things more confusing.

    I also believe they are doing it on "regular" pages that don't have a blue verification badge.

    Why ? Because we tested out that theory, and it checked out.

    For testing purposes, we started out by doing this:

    - We found a few pages that posted similar content to ours that had a blue verification badge.
    - Using the Facebook Sharing Debugger, we downloaded their thumbnails used on post URLs that they had successfully posted on their pages.
    - We wrote articles about the same subjects and used their identical thumbnails to include with our posts.
    - We posted the URLs on our pages and lo and behold, the posts got deleted, sometimes after a few seconds, sometimes after a few minutes.

    As mentioned before, this has been causing us a lot of headaches lately as our team struggles to post content that won't be removed.

    Also, since posting content twice usually has a big impact on reach, whenever a post is removed and we post it again, it always seems to perform worse than the first time.

    When a post gets deleted, we also try changing the URL of that post so Facebook thinks it's a new post, but since some of our fans already saw the post, it rarely performs as good as the first post.

    My advice to you for now is the following:

    - Try to prevent using thumbnails that might depict something that could go against Facebook's Community Standards. These things include mostly pictures showing a lot of bare skin, asses and nipples (male or female), but it could be anything else really, you be the judge.
    - If you're unsure about your thumbnail and have smaller pages like we do, try testing your content on your smaller pages first, so if it gets removed there, it will have much less impact than if it's removed on your main page.
    - If something gets deleted and you feel it really wasn't supposed to, then make sure to report it to Facebook using the report a problem link found in the help menu on your page. This *might* help speed up the filter's learning process, although I'm starting to doubt Facebook really checks any of their support requests.
    - Get a blue verification badge. You can do so by reading an article written by Facebook and following their guidelines. Though, we already tried doing so and they refused our request, stating we needed to continue growing our public presence.

    I really hope this information will help us start a nice discussion about the subject and enlighten the people that might feel frustrated by Facebook's new policies.

    Please keep in mind that everything I wrote is based on pure experience only and that I've never talked to anyone at Facebook about the subject. You could say this is a big hypothesis with some positively tested results.

    Never forget that Facebook is one of the most secretive companies out there, and whatever worked yesterday could completely change tomorrow without notice. We're currently looking at alternative content distribution platforms because we feel the good Facebook days might soon be over.

    If other people want to add information to this post, feel free to do so as I think we all need to help eachother throughout these cloudy days.

    Also feel free to ask me questions, but I might not have an answer for you.

    Sincerely,

    Another pissed off Facebook marketer.
     
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  9. chakde

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    Points which I've also noticed:
    The big issue is with thumbnails used for the posts. Editing the image and re-posting works most of the time.
    You must make sure your URL has changed too.
    Verified pages are not facing this problem
    This problem persists whether you post manually or via apps.

    What's worse is what happens next, following the deletion of posts consistently, pages get a 1 week block from posting links. Next step is for page being unpublished.
     
  10. DarkSeid

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    Hello janvitos,
    thanks for your detailed input and we seem like we're on the same pages.
    I am also into this since 2010 and have run lots of successful websites since then and own a network of pages.

    And this started right about 3 weeks ago...

    one day I just saw some posts weren't going through as I normally use buffer.. so i thought something must have gone wrong with buffer.. but it wasn't not.. it was actually getting published on the pages but just getting removed as I could see in the publishing tool and when I'd click that post it would just show a blank white popup...

    and it started happening more frequently.. and spread across all my other pages..

    then initially replacing the thumbnail would work.. then I was sure it must have been the images they're detecting against their guidelines.. but slowly even that didn't help.. rewriting titles would work sometimes where changing url would work sometime...
    and sometime where nothing should work.. I would just create a new post for the same article and remove the old one and that would work.

    and this affected my overall reach too.. normally I would get 30k - 200k reach per post depending on the pages size...
    it dropped to 1k-30k instead..

    then a few days ago.. it felt like it was fixed the post stopped getting removed on my main pages.. but they're stil getting removed on some of my pages which didn't affect me much...
    My reach slowly returned back to normal.. the traffic resumed like normal.. but then suddenly now everything started to get deleted again...

    now the funny thing is which you might not have experienced or didn't mention above.. you don't need to change anything.. if you just post the same content that got removed on other page and it would work and then after some time may be few hours you post back and it would work...
    so this is totally bullshit..

    and the other funny thing is that... I"m producing very good contents and even my landing pages are focused on user experience... i've stopped using any native ads or any obvious clickbaits.. still they're clickbaits but crafted very uniquely so it just don't look like obvious clickbaits which used to work great before 2017

    btw I used to use play buttons over my thumbnail I thought that was the culprit.. but this is happening even without that..


    anyways would love to hear experiences from other people going through this.. may be together we can figure out a solution.
     
  11. DarkSeid

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    you're right about that.. this is a scary thing.. if the posts keeps getting deleted you'll get a ban this normally happens on small pages first.. i've had few small pages already banned for a week for sharing links.
     
  12. DarkSeid

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    one more thing I'd like to add.. even if you test on small pages first and they get published there.. it's not sure that the same link won't get removed on your bigger pages.
    this has happened to me.. one the day links getting posted properly on one page and the second day it's not working on other pages...

    and some links even get deleted after hours, after getting good amount of reach.

    so this all makes no sense yet.. whenever I feel like I found the solution.. something else pops out..

    but there are still pages even without the verification badges... they're doing extremely well.
     
  13. chakde

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    Another thing I've noticed is that on pages which have been banned from posting links for 1 week, posts do not disappear from it once the ban is lifted. However the fear of the page being unpublished or deleted is always lurking.

    Pinpointing the exact issue may allow us to find a solution, from what it seems we are all facing the same issues concerning viral page networks.
     
  14. janvitos

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    I find it pretty ironic how the biggest communication platform / company in the world is actually the worst communicator to its users. This has got to mean there's something so wrong about it.

    If only Facebook was honest and informative about its new policies, it would most certainly help people adjust, change their practices if they have to, and make a better social network altogether.

    But the way they are doing it is just confusing and pissing off people and making them want to leave their platform. But maybe that's what they want. Maybe it's some sort of sneaky cleanup, to keep the blue badge pages and throw away the rest, like they're saying "if you don't like what we're doing, then leave". Though I honestly sometimes feel there's way more crappy content being pushed by legitimate pages since they basically have the monopoly and care less about the quality of their content.

    I sincerely think it's time for a change, and I'm totally up for it, but I just don't know where to start.
     
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  15. chakde

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    I feel once the changes have been made and implemented fully, people will be deterred from spamming and posting fake news/clickbait posts, then things will return to normal. In a way it's good if it gets rid of the competition and spammers, but just how much longer things will remain like this, will test our patience too.
     
  16. janvitos

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    I certainly hope you're right, because at the moment, things aren't looking good.
     
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    Can we talk inbox??
     
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    Can that be because it's a duplicated link ? Maybe they have detection for that now.
    I really don't know what to say, reach is going down in the last 24h
     
  19. desis

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    In my experience, if You keep on reposting deleted url, within a week, your page will blocked for sharing links for atleast 7 days, this is what happen to me.
     
  20. desis

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    I hope the whole pages will not be banned by this time , I'm really worried about that part.