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Facebook Promotion Network - 50K New Friends Per Month

Discussion in 'FaceBook' started by prequalizer, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. prequalizer

    prequalizer Junior Member

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    OK the reason I've opened this new discussion stream before people start to yawn and go "Gawd not another 50K in a day/week/month discussion" is that we've started to achieve some cool results with our efforts on Facebook but to get there we've mixed and matched some techniques that in some cases people are talking about but in others not so....and also this whole process has thrown up a few issues that we want to be able to solve and the route to this may well be automation but I'm investigating possible solutions at the moment and would welcome any recommendations that folks may have.


    We’re doing a similar thing to some others but in a targeted niche where we can access small to medium sized FB Groups and then “zone in” pretty quickly and invite friends to newly created targeted “themed” accounts


    But we’ve added a twist that has sent our response rates into “overdrive”. We have also set up a targeted themed “Magazine” type FB Group and this group is publishing targeted “themed” content and also syndicating this content into other similar typed FB Groups. We’re doing this via both our FB Group and Page plus also the various other accounts we’ve set up masquerading as “Editors” and staff for the Group/Page.


    The reason for this is as follows. In a lot of cases using the images we’re posting/distributing we’re getting anywhere between 150-650 likes per image/post. Once we have the number of likes at a certain level we then go in using the Fake Editorial accounts and reach out/invite these people who have liked the images and asked them to become friends. Because we are only targeting people who have previously liked our images we’re hitting almost 100% on topic people and our response/acceptance rates are stellar.


    For example we started this exercise 10 days ago using just a handful (20) of “seeded” accounts (essential) and have since accumulated between them over 22K in friends. These accounts have anywhere between 650 and 4,000 friends and when we get the accounts to a certain level then we add the friends to our FB Group and since we launched this group last Friday (7 days ago) we now have 15,600 members in this group. I reckon using this system we can grow it by around 10K unique friends per week. My aim is to have a targeted FB group of 50 - 100K members in around 5 weeks time.


    We ran our first test on a themed FB page with traffic from the FB Group and got over 280 new Page Likes in 24 hours, a Post reach of 1,225, Post engagement level of 1,221 and over 20K in individual Post Likes / loves etc.


    All in just under 24 hours.


    We’re effectively having to retire accounts and make them go dormant once they hit around 4.5K friends level as we don’t want to compromise them but this means that we have a growing number of accounts that are now sitting with 3K plus each.


    Also because of the editorial and content provision “twist” it now means that in some cases we’re getting around 1500 to 2000 friend requests to our accounts ( i.e. "inbound requests" ) from targeted traffic every day so that is cool.


    A lot of this has been done manually but its part of a much bigger picture as I wanted to completely analyze this process from the ground up and this meant analyzing the mechanics of how everything worked manually and then looking at ways of automating it to really blast it into the stars.


    Also the other reason I’m having to do so much manually is that a client took me for $750 a few weeks ago and I’m having to rebuild my cash pile which is taking a little bit longer than I thought.


    So my immediate requirements are:


    1. A good reliable (not too expensive - preferably monthly subscription) Utility to take FB Groups and allow me to scrape the member details (a basic scraper here would be ideal as we can do the research and know the Groups we want to scrape from) and then de-dupe/collate these into central csv file that we can then download / save. Ideally the sort of Utility would be like a sort of "Follow Liker" for Facebook. We have Follow Liker for Twitter and it's brilliant and has enabled us to build some Twitter accounts with over 200K followers each. I thought Follow Liker had a module for Facebook but it appears they don't.


    2. A good reliable utility that will post to large (ish) networks of FB groups / pages. We're using WP FanMachinePro for publishing content to FB Fan pages and it's brilliant and will handle some really large networks of over 250 pages with no issues at all but it won't post to Groups. We could use Hootsuite and upgrade but this will only take 50 accounts before they get expensive and then it's a pain. I've tried various workarounds but none are ideal.


    Sooo what in the "collective wisdom" is the best route to go down for FB semi automation. I say "semi" because in our experience FB have a "hair trigger" when it comes to networks of accounts and will ban without thinking or at least hit you with a temp ban or security clearance and we've lost the odd account that has over 2K fans and it's a real bummer. I can get a new account up to over 600 targeted friends very quickly (i.e. hours if not days) so I don't get too beaten out of shape if we lose the odd one but I get really "steaming" when we've been sloppy and lose an account that has over 3K friends.


    Anyone got any suggestions?


    Cheers


    S
     
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  2. VeeGeeN

    VeeGeeN Regular Member

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    MassPlanner can do the things you require I think. Joining/Scraping existing groups and pages.
     
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  3. prequalizer

    prequalizer Junior Member

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    I've looked at Massplanner and that can handle the content submission but not the scraping I think? I'm going to try a one month trial of FaceDominator and see how I get on there.

    I think at the end of the day the solution I seek is going to be a "mix and match" of a number of utilities but that is no bad thing as this would add a degree of randomness into activities which could help to reduce Footprint and regularity etc which is no bad thing.

    The Fanpage we launched late last week is getting (and continues to get) phenomenal traffic levels from the Facebook Group and now with a number of other tips and tricks we're using that to get the engagement growing on the Fanpage as well.
     
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  4. sandandkush

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    I have been thinking about purchasing WP FanMachinePro.
    How productive is it working out for you?
    If you don't mind, What method are you using with it?


    One suggestion. For now Facebook groups has a great potential. For now.
    You could get some aged accs and add targeted friend then add them all to your related groups.
    You could build a group of 50K+ members in one day with approx 10-20 accs. Do the maths.
     
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  5. prequalizer

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    I think WP FanMachine is well worth being purchased but you have to be careful how you use it. It can be a very powerful tool but it can also leave a humongous footprint if not used correctly as I see more and more evidence daily of people using it and just being lazy and leaving the default settings and just running it "as is".

    The more and more people using it with the default settings means that you can now spot it's use a mile away. We use a mix and match of both the old and the new...i.e. versions 1 and 2 but each for slightly different purposes. V 1 for engagement and V 2 for content distribution but never both at the same time on the same domain as this could cause issues both with the running of cron commands at your web host but also yet another potential target for the Facebook Police to catch you over.

    We use it for a variety of niches.


    "You could build a group of 50K+ members in one day with approx 10-20 accs. Do the maths." ..........In theory yes but in practice......not straight away for a number of reasons.
     
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  6. prequalizer

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    If any one is reading this discussion I'm still interested in peoples input regarding a good reliable FB scraper. I used to use Social Lead Freak but either it is no longer supported but for us it just doesn't work as well as it used to for FB Groups.

    It's a shame FollowLiker don't have a module for Facebook as for Twitter it is a pure genius and works extremely well. Ideally FollowLiker for FB and the process and way it works would be the answer to one of my prayers if I had a choice?

    Also I think bizarrely it's a plus not having one utility that does everything as that would just make it way to easy for FB to hit you. People tend to complain about not having any reliable single source of automation but for FB that actually works in your favor as they can very easily trace all your actions back to the IP you are using and hit you there.

    FB looks for unusual behavior patterns and then strikes - not always when you think or expect. We've had accounts get banned or "put on the naughty step" when we least expect it so it does happen.
     
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    Hi OP, do you offer a service with regards to building an account with a high number of followers or fans?

    If yes, I am willing to pay you to grow some accounts for me.

    Thanks.

    My skype is florider21
     
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  8. !!aryan!!

    !!aryan!! Newbie

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    Looking for Automatic Software for Complete Process mentioned in this thread! .. This would be awesome for me :D .. If anyone can suggest me step by step what to do to achieve 50000k members in a group. or that much like on the page..
     
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  9. prequalizer

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    sent you a Skype contact request ;-)
     
  10. Wolston

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    I think Massplanner has everything you're looking for. It handles scraping too. You can scrape group members. What kind of results are you seeing in terms of traffic?
     
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  11. !!aryan!!

    !!aryan!! Newbie

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    I tried it today but it extract only 50 groups ..

    any tips to use it properly..

    thank you.
     
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  12. Wolston

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    Not sure. It works fine for me though. You could contact their support. Quickest way to get answers.
     
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    my skype id : abdullatheefyk

    Why not have a chat? We will Talk :)
     
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    You already got softwares for all of that!
     
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  15. prequalizer

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    I'm working my way through a trial version of FaceDominator (well basically a 1 month sub) to see what it can do. I've managed to find some other pieces that are chrome extensions as well so there's a mix and match. Actually that's no bad thing as it minimizes a footprint and having had our asses kicked at various times by FB anything that brings a degree of randomness is no bad thing.
     
  16. prequalizer

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    Getting the information about Groups is not the issue. It's what you do with the data afterwards and FaceDominator looks as if it has promise. The one thing....key thing...is never do anything like this with an account you value. Always...always be prepared to "take the hit" and walk away form the account if FB "cut up rough".

    With regards to Traffic? W set up a brand new FB Page last Thursday evening at 6.00 pm. The only thing we did was invite followers from a couple of accounts to"like" the page and we've been playing with various traffic techniques ever since. Looking at the page now and studying the insights It has the following:

    Post Reach: 6,778
    Post Engagement: 4,408
    People talking about it: 2,831

    and looking at the data from the insights:

    Just under 16,500 Post "Likes"
    2,000 Post "Loves"
    8,000 Page Views

    So it's early days but since we "tweaked" our approach yesterday (which got a small FB Ban for "over cooking" things slightly but has settled down now) the traffic levels are looking good.
     
  17. prequalizer

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    It's getting them all to fire in the same direction and at the right time. There's no one "FB Killer" software out there. All of the software have their own strengths and weaknesses and that I think is the collective strength.
     
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    the MassPlanner can do it for you
     
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    i would recommend Massplanner , it fits the aspects that you're looking for.
     
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    If you don't mind, What method are you using with it? How productive is it working out for you? I have been thinking about purchasing wordpress fan machine pro.
     
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