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Expired domains: High PR domains or Relevant to your Niche domains?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by randybishop, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. randybishop

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    When you are looking for expired domains (to make a private blog network), which is better?

    1) High PR domains
    2) Lower PR, but domain is relevant to your money site
     
  2. SEOHULK

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    Use both if you can get them at a decent price.
    Both will help you in rankings.

    Relevant domain names work better of couse but a high PR domain with a irrelevant name will work nicely too.
     
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  3. herefornow

    herefornow Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Problem with Expired domains is you never really know what was on it before and at nxt pr reevaluation they could loose their Pr, just a hint, Ve been there :(
     
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  4. Execute

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    Well first of all I would be careful using PR as a metric to analyse domains with any more as the PR hasn't been updated by Google in such a long time. Use other more up to date metrics by going to majesticseo or ahrefs.

    But really you should be looking to buy domains with as much authority as possible. The ones which have a niche relevant backlink portfolio will provide a better link, although it is not essential as you can construct the content on the site to make it relevant to your niche. It also makes sourcing domains a lot easier as you aren't just restricted to your niche.
     
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  5. ok888

    ok888 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I prefer high PR domain but you need to check the backlink profile to ensure the PR is real
     
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    if the link profiles seem simialr then i go for PR
     
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    Royalserviceteam Power Member

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    All time I prefer high pr while buying expired domains.
     
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    Its really good to buy expired domains specially if these are your niche relevant, its help your website to rank more easily than other SEO ways.
     
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    I like domains that have general anchors like "mysite.com", then just build relevant onpage content, maybe add a couple of niche relevant links to the site as well.

    You can always check the domain on archive.org. Altough sometimes a domain will lose most of its links simply because webmasters who were linking to them notice the "change of owner", you can't always control it 100% except if you build the network from scratch, which is slooow.
     
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  10. SEOHULK

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    Like people above suggested, there are more metrics to evaluate an expired high PR domain than PR alone.

    herefornow and lalalalehund gave valuable advice regarding:
    - checking past backlinks with other tools like ahrefs;
    - checking the previous site that is available in archive.org
    - a simple check in Google with the query site:domain.com

    That way you can avoid buying penalized, deindexed or previous porn/pharma/gambling domains that probably even sport fake PR just to increase the price.
     
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  11. axemantech

    axemantech Newbie

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    To answer your question I would like to ask you another question - is your goal simply to increase the PR of your money site or to rank for keywords in your niche.

    PR by itself means nothing. If it did, then all the top keywords would be dominated by highest PR sites and no new site would ever have a chance of gaining traction in rankings. Here is where the niche matters because the links that the expired domain has will be from relevant sites. The links that you get from a site in your niche will help you rank for your keywords. Therefore, a domain relevant to your niche would be more valuable to you.

    That said, you can always re-purpose a generic expired domain, especially one that was a generic blog with links from different niches. You could just put content from your niche onto the main domain, or onto a subdomain (e.g. using a niche keyword for subdomain) and 301 redirect the root domain to subdomain (so that PR and links pass)

    At DomCop, a lot of our customers asked for a way to filter expired domains based on the industry. And we therefore recently put in an industry category filter, so that you could find domains specific to your niche. We currently match keywords with the domain names, but in the future are going to match them with data from wayback archive (so that you could select a domain based on the niche of website that was previously on it).

    Your first choice should be domains within your niche. However, if you are in a competitive niche, these could be too costly to acquire in which case you can go ahead with re-purposing a high PR generic domain. Also, apart from PR, you may want to look at the Moz Domain Authority, Majestic Seo Citation and Trust Flow metrics.

    [Disclaimer: I work at DomCop]
     
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    I would prefer lower pr ( pr>1) domain as compared to a high PR domain if i am building this private network for any specific niche.
     
  13. randybishop

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    axemantech-

    Thanks for this valuable information, what you are saying makes sense.
    I do want to rank for keywords in my niche, so related domains would be the way to go based on your analysis.
     
  14. pepe7

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    This is my first post. This thread answered many of my questions about this topic. Great info here.

    I still have a question, what if I get an expired domain that seems to have a solid bl profile, run site:example, etc, and everything looks ok.

    But still, it has a penguin penalty on it. Wouldn't that hurt my money site, when I link the pr domain to it?

    Thanks
     
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    Yes it CAN pass the penalty. I've linked penalized domains to my sites and sometimes they get hurt, sometimes they don't. Depends on the strength of the money site and what kind of penalty you have. Sometimes entire domains get penalized, sometimes sites just get a keyword level penalty for trying to target one keyword too hard (but they're able to rank for ALL other keywords). No point in risking it though.
     
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  16. pepe7

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    So in your opinion, it's not a good idea to buy expired domains and link them to a money site, as part of a seo strategy?
    I'm really thinking about giving it a try... How do you people who use the strategy can have sure (or almost sure) that the pr domain you are about to buy is not penalized and won't hurt your money site?
     
  17. IProvideSEO

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    I would try to find that happy medium, where the expired domain is close to your site and has some backlinks to it already.

    Also, what you can easily do is find High PR domains with a lot of natural links/brand names and then re-purpose that website to make it relevant to your niche. Think about brand names with natural links, Amazon, Nike, eBay those are not related to their subjects but the content on the website definitely is.
     
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    High PR domains > Relevant Niche domains
     
  19. pepe7

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    Nice feedback so far, thank you guys.
    What about trying to know if a pr domain has a penalty that might hurt the money site? Is the only way check the BL profile and try to figure it out? Or is there any other way that might help?
     
  20. BuyPRDomainsDotNet

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    Both are important for tier1 network [ private network ] ..
    High PR3+ - 70%
    Niche domain name - 30% [ look at domain name or backlink anchor text ]
     
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