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expired domains: dont be scared of deindexed domains

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aussiejack, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    I am clearly not an expert on expired domains or building pbns. But I made some experiences now and you guys on bhw helped me a lot not to waste too much money (well I actually wasted some money with trial and error but could have been worse...). Therefore I would like to share one little piece of advice that might be interesting especially to the newbies:

    Most guides for expired domains / PBN buidling say you should stay away from deindexed domains because they are probably penalized and will be hard to reindex.

    I found that this is mostly not true. I bought 4 really good PR3/4 domains (PA/DA/CF/TF 30+) for less than $200 total. Deindexed domains often go for 50% or less of the price of indexed domains with similar metrics. Probably because people are scared or think these domains are all penalized which is just a stupid generalization. My domains were all non-profit sites with no spam backlinks at all, even some gov/edu backlinks and no weird SEO ever doing some weird SEO shit on them :eek:

    I put one article on each of them and got them all reindexed within 2-5 days.

    Bottom line: Check deindexed domains as well and dont be afraid to place your bid if everything else look fine. They might be awesome and cheap opportunities.
     
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  2. sjoerdtop

    sjoerdtop Regular Member

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    good piece of advice. i'm pretty sure google deindexed domains when they are offline for a while.

    which means they don't have a pennalty
     
  3. erminc

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    My same thoughts about this matter. Got couple of deindexed domains and the got indexed within couple of days, could be faster if I used GWT.

    Posted via Topify using iPhone/iPad
     
  4. winosergio

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    You are very right man, most of the domains I find are deindexed, and they are great domains, high pr and great metrics, dont know why so many people saying that, mostly whitout testing before opening mouth.

    If that was true I would let pass a great PR6 domain with awesome backlinks just 1 month ago :D
     
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    lord1027 Elite Member

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    Deindexing is just natural, why would google would index a domain who has been dropped several months ago?
     
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    Not all deindexed domains are penalized, but most of the recently expired ones are. If you do proper research, you can get good domains this way, as the OP suggested. :)
     
  7. aussiejack

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    another thing is "faked pagerank". I got an expired domain of a former embassy for example. High trust, lots of gov backlinks, TF = 36, DA=47. I did not found one single suspicious backlink, also no 301s to push PR. Nobody ever gamed this domain.

    However, these pagerank checker tools suggest that the pagerank is weak/manipulated/faked. I don´t know how they come to this conclusion but I find this quite often for domains which otherwise look very good. I think that this is another opportunity where you can get good prices because almost everybody checks for pagerank and stays away from the domain if the tools say that the pr is "faked".
     
  8. SkyrocketSEO

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    I would never guess that OP...wow, such a groundbraking info, here is a cookie for you (Imagine Putin handing over cookie).
     
  9. aussiejack

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    chill man. I wrote clearly that it might be helpful for newbies and probably not for Mr.Sky-high-rocket-mustache-SEO-pimp. There is a ton of guides here on bhw telling that those are no-gos which prevents people from going for good opportunities. I wished somebody had told me some weeks ago.
     
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    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Sorry man, you're right.
     
  11. IMpossible

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    Do you still build backlinks for your PBN sites or just leave them as they are after you build the site?
     
  12. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    I dont build any backlinks for the PBNs. They have already have powerful backlinks (otherwise you bought the wrong domains...). I rather take the extra time to make the sites look natural and make them survive a manual review which is actually the hardest part.

    But as I said: I am certainly not a PBN expert and I cannot really give sophisticated advice on this. You better ask this question elsewhere. I just wanted to share this little piece of information because I think lots of newbies get it wrong and waste good opportunities.
     
  13. JournoNick

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    Yeah you're right, but did you need to tell everyone, geez (lol). I love how people are like "Oh man, it's not indexed, it's worth shit to me" because as an SEO it's fucking hard to build a sitemap and 1 link to re-index the site.

    It's pretty easy to spot a domain that was under a manual penalty by looking at the anchors. Would you buy those domain anyway? Probably not.

    Another thing that grinds my gears is the uproar about majestic metrics. These kids are "Oh man, I only ant 30+ TF, if you can't have 30+ TF with 25+ DA then it's shit." Oh yeah? Let me spam that domain for you and dilute the value of the editorial BBC links pointing to it, but not found in Ahrefs, because that's the "fastest bot and is like god." Fucking kids!! Go home!

    /rant
     
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    check the expire domain at archeives. Was is a blog network earlier? IF NO then almost no chance it would not get indexed.
    Cheers!
     
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    Reregister the domain using a non profit name, like "Free American Registry for Turtles" (FART). Non-profits get all the love.
     
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    Yep, I laughed out loud like a dickhead at this.
     
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    Helpful tip. I know I've read the reverse several times.
     
  18. snaip

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    All these fake PR chechers do is search in google for info:domain.com , if the domain is not indexed there are no results and the domain is flagged as fake PR.

    Another thing - most people tell you to stay away from domains used for redirects, but what they don't tell you is redirects can be used for legitimate purposes. For example if archive.org shows 302 redirect to subdomain this means the domain has been parked, so nothing fishy. Something like this:

    archive2.jpg

    archive.jpg

    Same goes for redirects to mcc.godaddy.com , sedoparking.com and inner pages like domain.com/search.php?uid=random-string-here