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Expired domains and PBN questions

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Adrianx, Oct 25, 2014.

  1. Adrianx

    Adrianx Registered Member

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    Hi guys!

    I have some questions about expired domains and PBN. Currently, I've finished my main site and optimized it for SEO. After reading a lot, I think the best strategy is PBN. So I began to search for expired domains in Domcop and Freshdrop, because I hate expireddomains and similar, too bad sites there, is impossible to find nothing valuable. Later, I observed that the most valuable domains I was able to find come from Goddady Auctions. I've no problem in spending money in getting some valuable domains (I've money to invest) but I searched for an alternative method before doing anything.

    I've read some tutorials about Xenu to find for expired domains, so I thought that it could be a good place to start. The process I do is this: I first gather important pages and then I check for broken links, then, I remove the "www" and "http" and check de availability with a bulk checker. Then, I use Netpeak to check for DA, PA and links with Moz (but I don't like this aproach too much because the data I get for DA and PA is always incorrect, I don't know why), only the link data is correct. Whith this, I filter what it could be the better domains. Using this method the best domain I could find is a: PA20 DA30 17UNIQUE IP, 28TF and 21CF aprox, maybe a little less. However is only 17 refering IPS and most of all links are from blog commenting in niches of the same sector, so I don't think it has much power.

    This process is time consuming (and I have almost all semi automated) and I don't find good domains. After all this, I think that the best is to pay in Goddady auctions. I'm from Spain. Anyone has other opinion?

    For me is not a problem to pay for expired domains (100$ to 200$) if they have power. But first I need that someone answers these questions please:

    1. Is not very suspicious to buy a domain that is from a very unrelated niche and then repurpose the theme to fit my main site niche? Also finding a english domain (not my main language) and then rebuilding it with spanish content I think is a huge footprint.

    2. If I build a PBN and link to my main site, if I get penalized, what pages are hitted? my money site or my PBN sites or both? I don't want to spend a lot of money in domains and then, one day I lost all my PBN sites. If is only my main site is not a problem I think, I rebuild a new site with the same content and then I point my PBN sites to the new domain. Am I correct?

    3. Any trick to find good expired domains? I've spent lot of time without results.

    Thanks
     
  2. SpookSEO

    SpookSEO Senior Member

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    This, I would not do. You said it yourself, looks pretty suspicious. If your niche is going to be local, try searching for expired Spanish domain names
    Depends how you are getting hit by G. If your PBN is found, it's done. But if you got hit because you were buying spammy links then your PBN is still fine. Make sure to use unique IP's while creating a PBN.
    What exactly is wrong with the ones you are using now?
     
  3. SkyrocketSEO

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    Hun, with that budget on GD auctions you won't get anything better than what you already find using the tools you mentioned.

    If you got hit cause of the links, what do you think what value will those PBN domains have after the Penguin hit?

    No tricks except the budget and/or tools. Here is the tool that one of the members here sell.
     
  4. dbonneville

    dbonneville Newbie

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    When we started working on our own PBNs, the very first speedbump was finding expired domains. We went the custom route and built our own (Oxbow Domains), it was that pernicious of a problem. Luckily, we are able to start with a single domain or URL and find expired domains from there. The Xenu method even with the help of a spreadsheet was simply too tiresome and time consuming, not to mention demotivating. Trying to buy a domain from a broker where you can see the domain name is a problem because of blackmail (GoDadday was in the news about this last month), and you need the domain name to do the background check, unless you *really* trust the broker.

    Viperchill says that they have no verifiable evidence that repurposing a site from one language to another has any impact on performance. You need to keep your footprint small (differen IPs or Cloudflare for a small network).

    To find expired domains, in the end, I think you need have a good broker you trust, or rent a tool like the one mentioned above for a few bucks, or have someone with a crawler (like me) do a search for you for the domains or URLs you are interested in, and sell you the results or domains with X stats in those results. Like you said, without one of these options, you are left to do it yourself with Xenu and other tools and methods, and it just takes forever with spotty results.
     
  5. boombaby7

    boombaby7 Junior Member

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    Dude I don't know where you're looking, but you can find pretty powerful expired domains for $100-$200 a pop..
     
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  6. DeadJoe

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    There are plenty of sellers on this forum. You can find a good domain from $27 - 50. Use the search function, "PBN domains" "expired domains" and you will find some good deals.
     
  7. Adrianx

    Adrianx Registered Member

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    I prefer to do the work myself lol. I don't know if buying from brokers is a good idea, you can't see which are the domains the broker is selling, so you can't check its links. I prefer to buy some powerful domains (the less the better, but very powerful), I don't want to manage lot of less powerful domains.