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Expired domain with chinese?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by twpro, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. twpro

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    I know it's normally a good idea to avoid expired domains that had foreign lang on them in the past. But I found a domain with really good metrics: TF20, CF 18, RD 115, DA 31, PA 32, Wikipedia backlinks.

    I'm wondering whether or not to use it, it's 5 years old and has one month of Chinese on it that is not spammy. Just info about a measles vaccine or something.

    Should I go for it, or not worth?
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  2. MikeyMikey13

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    Just get it and test it, you'll only know until you try.

    I have a few spammy domains in my network and they work just fine. Is it indexed still if you do "site:"?
     
  3. terrycody

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    99% people here mixed with Japanese language and Chinese, if you 100% make sure that is "Chinese" not the Japanese, I would say its clean (though many people still ignore such domain, but I know these are good indeed), btw, Chinese site but got wikipedia link? ummm, its not common, I mean, maybe you just messed with the language, if Japanese though, maybe it got spammed b4.
     
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    so you are saying chinese domains are not spammed but japanese are?
     
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    Got it Chinese text on domain=good.... Japanese text=bad... It make's sense if u think it really hard while high on mushrooms.

     
  6. boleklolek

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    From my perspective, if its blog owned by you only and the domain has CLEAN ANCHOR, but was used by some chinese/japanese doesn't matter honestly in the past like in 2014 for 1 - 2 -3 months and didn't have any porn stuff then I don't see why you shouldn't use that domain..

    I like to think logicaly from normal human behavior lets say average Joe buys the domain because he likes the name, how in the hell could he know that this domain is spamed and banned and that he will never even make it into google index? Thats unfair right?

    I highly doubt google would do such a thing and ban domains for ever ever..

    This story could have different endings by the way, average Joe could meet some SEO and that guy could have tell him this domain was spammed before etc. etc. , but what if this Joe would be pissed that no one told him about it? I know USA is full of people that go to court over candies so..
     
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  7. terrycody

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    I personally involved with checking expired domains with a guru last year, I checked thousands of domains and finally got this conclusion, beside that, I am a Chinese, so I know sth.

    Why I say 99% time if its a Chinese domain, then clean, but Japanese domain spammed? THAT BECAUSE of fxxking Google.

    In my experience, when you found a good expired domain got English content but in archive or screensshots history, you found it used to full of Japanese language shit, then 99.99999% case, it got spammed, why? Because Japanese use Google search engine (especially google.co.jp) TOO, japanese domains got power! (of course with their local backlinks)

    Such domains used crawled by Google index (though co.jp or even .com) and it got backlink power! Thats why people spam Japnese language domains, and made those into PBNs!

    Next

    Why a Chinese domain 99% time clean? Because CHINESE DONT USE GOOGLE search engine LOL, and Google already quit China in 2009 if IM right, either case, we people here never USE GOOGLE, and I tell you we cant even log on the site, because the government policy LOL, completely backlisted it.

    So when you found a domain with Chinese language, very very few people will make it into a PBN, why? Remeber we chinese use Baidu.com but not the Google right? So the backlinks Google.com indexed would be very different compare with our Baidu.com, its very complicated to explain, because its just 2 different search engines, for example, maybe this Chinese domain got very powerful backlink page with Google will never index that China web page, it happens, don't ask me why, because I dont know lol ( I think maybe Google still concentrate on English world but not all Chinese language web pages right?)

    Till here, you might ask a question, so no Chinese domain PBN? I will say, from thousands of domains I checked, less than 10 LOL LOL LOL LOL

    But Let me tell you, some Chinese expired domains also got strong power, but many internet marketers today just ignore these domains, because its still fishy if it got Chinese language but later used as English site. I will say its Fishy, but you can use it actually and it worked lol

    Thats why I jumped that conclusion and seems got high, why people maybe never ever face these problems? Because people already messed up with Japanese language and Chinese language and in most cases, they just ignore ( I agree with this move, it leave you no fear about money site, because when you can pick up English expired ones, why Chinese/Japanese?), btw, I faced many people ask why domains got Chinese spammed but in reality, its Japanese lol, if you are not an Asian guy, you will have a harder time to tell the difference between this 2 language.

    Final thought: Why there are tons of Japanese language spammed domains but not Chinese ones? I personally thought in 2011-2012, there are a batch of fuckers keep crawling Google.co.jp 7/24 in order to get good expired domains to bank, and for sure, they must be earned enough. (Why not crawl in Google.com about Chinese domains, because not enough in index lol)

    Sorry for my english, it sucks.


    terry
     
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  8. terrycody

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    You are right, and I tell you from my experience, spammed Japanese expired domains still can rank you, just just just, you know, its risky lol
     
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    Terry it is very logical what you just told us here at least for me. Lets hope now google translate is good enough to tell the difference between japan and chinese :D Thanks for that TERRY

    PS. how the hell ur name is terry if u are chinese?
     
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    We are in 21st century lol
     
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  11. terrycody

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    HAHAHAHA, you are welcome buddy, hope I really cleaned someone's thoughts here, because I see too many, just too many people messed with Japanese and Chinese, and you know, as a Chinese, pissed everyday by these lover marketers but actually, its Japanese lol.

    And for my name, to tell the truth, when I register the forum in 2012, I dont know what to input, and I remebered the Terry in The king of fighers Game, hahahahah, so here I am!

    PS: from last year's experience, I got some deep thinking about this expired domain, like I said, I personally think there are some guy traveled to Japan and formed a ganster about domain crawl, maybe called DOMAIN CRAWL co.tld, and banked hard lol, I dont think there are such gurus in Japnese local and spammed tons of shits on Google face in 2011-2012, either case, they are rich NOW!

    Good days passed for sure.

    terry
     
  12. terrycody

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    HAHA, truth is, till now, the most accurate translation from Google Translate is between English -- Chinese, LOL, why? Because

    https://research.googleblog.com/2016/09/a-neural-network-for-machine.html

    The killing tech of Google neural network first combined into English and Chinese translation LOL, we chinese got the reward first time in the world lol.
     
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  14. Nargil

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    Really interesting insight from @terrycody I have to admit. Normally I do not make any difference between japanese or chinese, I filter them both as soon as I can. Regarding the OPs question though, I can send you hundreds of domains like that with terrible history. Clean anchors are a must have. IF they are clean, then you can try the domain, but in 90% of the cases it will be penalized. IF it is indexed however and has clean anchors, yet has a terrible history, you can give it a shot. I would still avoid it, but if you are comfortable with it, go for it.
     
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    Of course as Nargil said it is always best to have a clean history. This is best and safest way. Yes. There is a huge difference if domain has been picked up by a bot for a year and used for porn and shit and if domain was just registered and then dropped with nothing inbetween. So I would look at anchor and it's clean even if it was registered by chineze or japanese bots anyway I would go for it, I have couple good domains in my PBN and I don't see any harm in doing that. Anchor needs to be clean however IMHO.
     
  16. terrycody

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    HAHA, good finding man! But from my experience, this is not a PBN domain, this is a hacked domain, I can almost 99.999999% sure! Why this? It got a long history too!

    In our China, gambling is not legal! The police can take your ass into jail if you build online gamble site ( porn is illegal too!), but you know it, every country will got tons of such sites no matter what, because too much money in there right? So the question coming!

    How to do SEO for such gamble sites? Answer is, the owner of the sites seek for lamb Hacker and hack here and there, try to do their best to Hack everything, and Put Anchor Text With Gambling Thing to leverage others authority domains, even till now! You can find a shit load of such domains, include goverment, company web page, university etc etc, because China websites are far from safety as US ones, consider our tech guys are not that smart enough. (this is truth)

    So in your image showed, those anchors are all related to "GAMBLING" niche. And not used as PBN, because the content on these sites never changed, or just put a hacked page. (I personally dont know these black hat methods lol)

    Internet of Chinese is very huge and complicated, you can think it as another world lol.

    terry
     
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