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[Experience] JV, Shitlist & Popcorn Theory

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by H3ktor, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. H3ktor

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    Last 2 days, couple of Blue members has been listed to shitlist. It is really shocking but i wanna share some of my experiences about JV offer here in BHW! I started 2 JV thread not very long ago. I got a lot of PM and reply from interested members. Here is my points i figured out!
    1. Many member don't even know what a JV is. They jump in just seeing the $$$ sign in title.
    2. Donor or Jr. VIP status doesn't ensures you that this member is reliable. It costs only $97. I have talked with many Jr. VIP and Donors over skype, who doesn't even know what marketing is actually.
    3. Many newbie begs to get into JV with very low or no qualification.
    4. Many member doesn't know if an investment is good or bad. I am talking about ROI, KPI and CRM etc.

    Why i am pointing these facts?
    If you are one of those(above 4), i bet even the dumbest scammer can scam you.

    My 2 Cents
    1. If you are offering JV to member then be sure to select member with proper knowledge related to your JV. An active JV partner is 100 times then a sleeping partner
    2. If you are thinking of getting into JV then follow this awesome guideline:
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/joint-ventures/279171-survial-guide-not-getting-scammed-bhw-anywhere-else-really.html
    Just my thoughts....
     
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  2. _Sunny_

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    Agreed!
    Few days back,I had a chat with a mod complaining about some Jr Vip as I feared of being scammed. He at once pointed out my fault of not taking $$ in advance.
    I said the person was a VIP and I kinda trusted him and guess what was his reply?
    Do Not trust any one, not even me. Even I can scam you.


    Golden Rule: If you are a service provider and work without taking 100% upfront, just quit IM.
     
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  3. t0mmy

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    I've always lived with that rule trust no one but yourself! there is a couple of exceptions to the rules but none of those exceptions hang out on bhw lol
     
  4. xcpks

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    Great thread!
    I am a little worried since i see too many shitlist threads lately. It´s best to join in on a JV with people you have talked with a long time and trust.

    And I agree to what you say with the newbies. They only see the $ signs and don't always understand that it is work involved
     
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  5. onegawad

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    This is a forum with thousands of people. Of course you have to be careful with who you trust and who you choose to work on a joint venture with
     
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  6. t0mmy

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    I'm in 2 JVs but the guys didnt ask for anything up front, they based their trust in me, and i sure as hell wont let them down, this is a great place with great opportunity's why throw that all away
     
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  7. H3ktor

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    I am on a JV where i have collected $30k invest within four hours. I went on skype conference call with four rockstar marketer(they know me personally) from USA & UK, explained everything and they have agreed to put $30k on my project as a split test. They have ensure me they will love to invest $100k+ after 6 month if i can show them minimum result.
    All i did is, i explained my investment repayment plan in case of project failure and they liked it. While doing business, do it with real businessmen.
     
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